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Welcome back, everyone, to 69 South Podcast, where we bring you true crime stories from places that seem utterly unbelievable.
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I'm your host, Chop, and today with my beautiful co-host Julie, we are going to dive into a wild story.
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Hello, everyone.
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Well, wild is an understatement.
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Today we're excited to break down the new Netflix documentary, Unknown Number, which follows the story of a young girl, Lauren, and her boyfriend Owen, both around 13 years old, and students at Beale City High in Bill City, Michigan.
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If you haven't seen it yet, no worries.
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We've got you covered and we'll unpack it all.
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I recommend watching it before and after you uncover the suspect's identity.
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Trust me, your perspective will shift once you figure out who's behind the unknown number.
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Let's start with Bill City, Michigan, a small town in the heart of the state with a population of just 312.
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We're talking a tiny, unincorporated community with one K through 12 school, a blinking yellow light, a gas station, and two taverns.
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Blink while driving through, and you'll you might miss this little spot.
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The biggest events here revolve around the school and the sports.
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13-year-old Lauren, an all-star athlete and straight A student, who's timid, shy, and soft spoken.
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She excelled in basketball, volleyball, softball, and even cheered as a cheerleader, making her a standout in extracurricular activities.
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Then there's 13-year-old Owen, equally involved in school academically and athletically, football, basketball, and baseball, sharing a passion for sports with Lauren.
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Their young love story begins during the fall of their eighth grade year when a local family hosted an invite only Halloween party.
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Lauren wasn't originally on the guest list, but Owen asked her to join, and she reluctantly agreed.
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Though outgoing on the field, Lauren was more reserved off of it, a quiet, shy teen.
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A few weeks before the Halloween party, she received a text from an unknown number saying, Hi, Lauren, Owen is breaking up with you.
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He no longer likes you, and he hasn't for a while.
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It's obvious he wants me.
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Naturally, she showed the messages to her mom, Kendra.
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They dismissed it as a prank and moved on.
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But those texts planted seeds of doubt in Lauren, as they would any young girl.
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Then in the fall of twenty twenty one, when they were in ninth grade, Owen and Lauren got more messages.
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And these texts read like this.
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And we are both DTF.
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He wants nothing to do with you.
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He thinks you're annoying and an ugly ass bitch and wishes you would leave him the fuck alone.
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Why do you think he is on his phone all the time texting me, question mark?
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You didn't get invited to sleep with him.
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I did.
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I'm spending the night with him.
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I'm sharing a bed with him, not you.
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Damn, that's harsh for a teenage girl to hear about her boyfriend.
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Well, absolutely it is.
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And the the weird thing is, is so in 2020 there was that Halloween party.
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Right.
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And um, and then the next year there was another one.
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So it was like the messages just popped up around the Halloween party, and then they quit, and then here comes, you know, next year's and they start all over again.
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It's odd.
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So right off the gate, you think it's some jealous other girl uh going to the Halloween party and got her eyes on Owen this whole year.
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Exactly.
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And can you imagine what you know these texts are making this young girl think?
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DTF.
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We are both DTF, meaning We're both down to fuck.
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Yeah, and so as a as a young girl, if you got a message like that, that would probably make you think, oh well, I should get involved sexually with this boy.
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That's what that makes me think she's gonna be insecure about it, so she's thinking, oh well, maybe if I give it to him, he won't.
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Right.
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Whoever the slut is that's texting me might be might be having sex with my dude, so maybe I better step my game up type shit.
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Exactly.
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Now, Tammy, the host of the Halloween party, caught wind of the incident and she called Lauren's mother, Kendra, to assure her that Lauren was certainly invited to the Halloween party.
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So the text continued sporadically through the end of that year.
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Jill, Owen's mom, showed them to school officials who just told her to block the number.
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Sometimes Lauren would fight back.
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I don't care what you say.
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Owen and I are solid and you're not going to break us up, she texted back.
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Other times she would take the bait.
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She'd text Owen, Are you hanging out with other girls?
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Or she would text, Do you want to break up?
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Owen would always FaceTime back and reassure Lauren that he didn't want to break up and that he wasn't hanging out with other girls.
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Poor dude.
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So this went on for months.
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Now, by the start of high school, Owen began to pull away from Lauren.
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The text made up 75% of the reason he calculates why they broke up.
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It's and he said it's just hard to be with someone after all of that.
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At a volleyball match in their freshman year, Owen and Lauren sat apart from each other.
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That's when Lauren started getting texts from her mom, Kendra, who was across the gym, and she was texting Lauren, sit next to him.
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Wow, that must have been intense for her, especially coming from her own mom.
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Well, it didn't stop there.
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The text kept coming in from Kendra.
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She was texting, answer me.
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Come here now.
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I'm pissed.
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That escalation just sounds weird.
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Why would a mother be pushing her daughter to do that?
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Well, it got worse.
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The pressure from Kendra kept building.
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Move your ass now.
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Now I'm fuming, pissed off.
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This is fucking ridiculous.
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Answer me and move your ass.
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That's unbelievable.
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It sounds like Kendra was really putting the pressure on this little girl.
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Could you imagine how awkward, you know, Lauren felt?
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And her mom's like, move over there next to him.
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And she's like, Well, we're broke.
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She's in her mind, she's thinking, we're broke up.
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Why would I be stalker-ish and go sit next to him?
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If he wanted to sit next to me, he would have sat next to me.
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And she's like pushing her to do things that she didn't want to or was uncomfortable.
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Exactly.
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Meanwhile, the anonymous bully was picking up on the tempo.
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In the lead up to the homecoming dance, the bully claimed that only one of them would be voted on to homecoming court.
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Could this be the end of the aka golden couple with the relationship that everyone idolizes?
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Now, just imagine what these messages are doing to Lauren's emotional psyche.
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Right.
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You have somebody just hammering on you, you know, that they're gonna break your relationship up with your boyfriend.
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And you know how young love is at that time.
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Oh yeah, that's the person you're gonna be with forever, for sure.
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Well, they think that in the moment anyway.
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Absolutely.
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Owen and Lauren went to the homecoming dance together, but in early November he called Lauren and asked to break up.
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He said he was just sick of fighting and the texting had driven down trust.
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Lauren remembers he asked whether they could just take a break.
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They both cried.
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To Owen, breaking up was also tactical.
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He hoped it would satisfy the harasser and they would be left alone.
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Now I never understood why they never changed Lauren's phone number or put a block on her phone that only contacts are allowed to call or message that phone.
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I know Apple has that in the parental controls, and if your number isn't in the contacts, you're not even able to view the message.
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It's a fact that social media for young teens under 18 can be a very dangerous place.
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So they kept the breakup quiet in school, but in the days after, the cyber bully started declaring victory.
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Lauren is heartbroken and feeling defeated.
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That is just downright evil.
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Some very serious bullying.
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And can you just imagine if you had no idea who was sending these text messages?
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I would be petrified.
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It would be driving me insane.
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Her sense of security is completely shattered.
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This invisible person is controlling her sense of self-being, her emotions, and this is leading her to a nervous breakdown.
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This was a sustained, flooding torrent of messages, sometimes as many as 30 to 40 a day arriving at all hours day and night.
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The relentless assault left the teenagers and their parents exhausted and frightened.
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And the content of these messages were brutal.
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The words weren't just insults.
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They were designed to inflict maximum psychological damage.
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They were deeply personal, targeting Lauren's body and her athletic ability.
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One message which we've seen documented was a truly vile and demeaning statement, calling her a quote, anorexic toddler.
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And this is where the sheer evil of the bully shines through was a direct and horrifying command to kill yourself now, bitch.
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The bully, whoever they were, seemed to derive pleasure from Lauren's suffering from her obvious pain and her vulnerability.
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The harassment wasn't confined to just text messages either.
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The bully took their campaign public.
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An Instagram account was created, posting a heavily doctored photo of Lauren and Owen, accompanied by a caption filled with hateful and mocking comments.
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The social media component was a significant escalation, moving the cruelty from private correspondence to a public spectacle.
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It was a calculated attempt to humiliate the teenagers in front of their entire school and friend group.
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And the emotional toe, as we can see from the police reports, was immense.
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The teenagers were becoming reclusive, sad, and anxious.
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You got to remember this was a K through 12 school with a population of just above 300.
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Yeah, and I think there was um 700 students in the school altogether, K through 12.
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So everybody knew everybody in this school.
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I mean, you probably went to kindergarten, and these teenagers are in eighth and ninth grade now.
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So you know it was bugging the shit out of them, man.
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Which one of these people that I've known my whole life is fucking with me like this?
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Yeah, and they're already suspecting that it's a jealous girlfriend or somebody because who else would send messages like that?
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And it all revolves around these this couple.
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Teenagers are brutal, especially jealous teenage girls.
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Yeah, ruthless, 100%.
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One of the most chilling details we've seen in the reports is the story of the Halloween party.
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This was a private party, a simple get-together for a close group of friends.
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And yet the unknown number who they referred to as a ghost friend at the time was seemingly in attendance.
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The bully sent messages that were so specific, so detailed about the events of that party that it gave the teenagers and their parents a terrifying thought.
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The bully wasn't a distant online figure, they were physically present.
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The bully was said to have been there the whole time, according to one source, a phrase that sends a shiver down your spine.
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The fear that the tormentor was a trusted friend and a seemingly harmless acquaintance was unbearable.
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The parents, in their desperation, tried everything.
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They called the school, they went to the local police department and filed a report.
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They gathered hundreds of pages of text messages and screenshots, a massive file of evidence that was presented to Sheriff Michael Maine and his department.
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But the messages were coming from burner apps and massed phone numbers, making them impossible to trace.
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For 15 months, the bullying continued obsessively.
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The police were stumped, as one officer put it, the case felt like a dead end.
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The torment continued even after Lauren and Owen's relationship ended.
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This is a critical detail, one that dismantles the perpetrator's later defense.
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After the two broke up, Owen started dating another girl.
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But the bullying didn't stop.
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Instead, it shifted its focus, now targeting Owen's new girlfriend.
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The messages were just as vile and manipulative.
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It was about something far more insidious, a predatory fixation on controlling the lives of these kids.
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Now the police were making little progress.
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The school officials were at a loss too.
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They held meetings, they talked to students, but no one could or would admit to being the bully.
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The perpetrator was using a sophisticated mix of technology to remain anonymous.
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One of the key tools we now know was a messaging app called Pinger, which allowed them to send messages without revealing their actual phone number.
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They were also using VPNs or virtual private networks to mask their location and IP address.
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The combination of these tools created a digital ghost, a phantom tormentor that seemed to exist everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
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That shit would be driving me nuts, man.
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Somebody texting my kid, my teenage girl, saying, kill yourself, bitch.
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You're worthless, you're ugly.
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I mean, somebody had to hate this girl at this point, is what I'd be thinking.
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I'd be looking at everybody like you're the one fucking sending those texts.
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I know it.
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You know what I mean?
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That'd be Yeah, and these children were young, 13, 14 years old.
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They had cell phones, they had social media, and I'm sorry, but my personal opinion is that's too young to have a cell phone or any type of social media whatsoever.
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So I think that the parents should have taken their phones, I mean, and waited a few years to even give them back because once if they would have took their phones, they wouldn't have been getting these messages.
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I mean, and then you have the parents being like, Well, why does my child have to suffer when they haven't done anything wrong?
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I get that side of it too.
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That's just my personal opinion.
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Could you imagine the rumor mill going around this small town?
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Like everybody had a fucking opinion on who was sending this shit, who was tormenting these kids.
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Oh, it was controlling the whole town.
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That's I bet that's the only thing the town talked about.
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You know, parents would share their thoughts and opinions with other parents.
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And I I'm sure it was like, oh my God, have you seen the new messages uh today after it all came out?
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Wonder what was sent today.
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It was the talk of the town.
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You know, they was like, I know this bitch is doing it.
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I know this bitch is doing it.
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They was pointing fingers every which way.
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Everybody looked like a porcupine, all the fingers digging out of it, pointing every which way.
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Exactly.
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But this is where the story takes a dramatic turn.
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The local police, realizing that they were out of their depth, reached out to the FBI.
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Special agent Peter was assigned to the case, and he brought with him a level of expertise and digital forensics that was far beyond what local law enforcement had to access.
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Peter's task was daunting to trace the anonymous messages back to their source, despite the layers of technology obscuring the actual source.
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Peter's investigation was a painstaking process of sifting through digital data, a massive haystack of information to find a single tiny needle.
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He began to trace the IP addresses associated with the Pinger app.
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The trail was difficult to follow as the VPNs were constantly changing the location of the IP addresses.
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But Peter, with his experience, was able to find a pattern, a common thread that linked the various IPs, and that common thread led back to a single reoccurring physical location.
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And here's where the story just shocked the shit out of me.
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The location that the FBI found was Lauren's home.
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The IP addresses, despite the constant shifts in masking, were consistently being routed through their Wi-Fi network.
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The evidence was irrefutable.
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The bully wasn't a rival or a stranger.
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The bully was Lauren's mother, Kendra Lakari.
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The police obtained a search warrant and on April 15th, 2022, they descended upon the Lacari residents to seize the electronic devices of everyone in the house.
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Now, that's wild.
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I could not bel I was shocked when it came out that it was her Lauren's own mother that was doing this.
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Now, Kendra Lacari had been in constant contact with the police and the FBI throughout this investigation.
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I'm sure she was.
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I guarantee she was inserting herself into the shit.
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I wonder if they if they're on to me and shit.
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She had faked concerned, offered help, and acted as a supportive parent, all while being the source of the torment.
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The deception was so complete, so all-encompassing that it was almost impossible to believe.
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The police had a hard time processing the truth, let alone the victims their self.
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I can't imagine how a mother could say that to her teenage daughter.
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I mean, over and over.
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Now let's let's explain how Kendra was acting.
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She was acting like the best mom in the world.
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Everybody thought that she was a good mom.
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She was the softball coach, she was the assistant basketball coach for like seventh or eighth grade.
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She did CTA fundraiser.
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She was involved in everything, everything, and always showed up for Lauren.
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So not a lot of people expected that it was gonna be her, but you know what?
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Some people in that town knew that Kendra was a liar, and they had their inklings that this may be her.