Sept. 15, 2025

Deaf to Her Cries: The Tragic Case of Zara Arnold

Deaf to Her Cries: The Tragic Case of Zara Arnold

What happens when every system meant to protect a child fails at once? Five-year-old Zara Arnold's story answers this question in the most devastating way possible. Zachary Arnold's violent history was no secret. With multiple arrests for violating protective orders, stalking charges, and even a rape accusation, he was a walking red flag. Yet somehow, the courts kept setting him free with minimal consequences, reducing his bonds from $200,000 to just $4,000, and dismissing serious felony cha...

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Season 1

What happens when every system meant to protect a child fails at once? Five-year-old Zara Arnold's story answers this question in the most devastating way possible.

Zachary Arnold's violent history was no secret. With multiple arrests for violating protective orders, stalking charges, and even a rape accusation, he was a walking red flag. Yet somehow, the courts kept setting him free with minimal consequences, reducing his bonds from $200,000 to just $4,000, and dismissing serious felony charges in favor of misdemeanor pleas.

Meanwhile, Zara's mother Tiara fought a desperate battle to protect her daughter. She documented bruises, reported incidents to DCS, and even captured video evidence of Zachary grabbing Zara by the neck in public. Her reward? A family court judge who not only granted Zachary full custody but ordered Tiara to stop reporting abuse altogether, dismissing her legitimate fears as "paranoia."

The final days of Zara's life reveal a horror story of escalating violence. Hotel employees witnessed and reported Zachary choking Zara in a parking lot, but police never responded. Digital evidence would later show videos of Zachary placing a noose around his daughter's neck and strangling her repeatedly – all while his girlfriend Andrea watched via video calls without intervening.

By the time authorities found Zara's body on May 19, 2025, she had endured unimaginable suffering. The autopsy revealed blunt force trauma to her head, extensive bruising across her body, and evidence of repeated strangulation. At five years old, she weighed just 39 pounds.

This case exposes catastrophic failures at every level – from law enforcement to child protective services to family courts. It forces us to confront uncomfortable questions about how we handle domestic violence cases, particularly when children's lives hang in the balance.

Zara's story reminds us why we must speak up when we see something wrong. The system might fail, but perhaps we don't have to. Listen, share, and remember: your vigilance could save the next child that institutions overlook.

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Disclaimer: All defendants are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY in a court of law. All facts are alleged until a conviction!

00:00 - Intro: Remembering Zara Arnold

04:03 - The Criminal Timeline of Zachary Arnold

11:20 - A Mother's Desperate Fight for Her Daughter

18:57 - The Horrific Final Hours of Zara's Life

33:11 - The Investigation and Confessions

52:04 - The Autopsy Reveals Extensive Abuse

01:19:30 - Failed By Every System Meant to Protect Her

01:32:57 - Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

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So, as always, we're going to dive right into it.

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We've had this story for a minute, man.

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We just I don't know, it's kind of eerie.

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I didn't want to tell it.

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And we tell these stories because we want to raise awareness.

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If you see something, say something.

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um, it's heartbreaking, it is very heartbreaking.

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You didn't want to tell it because it broke your heart, I know like it took me like days to read these probable cause affidavits, just thinking of the horror this poor little baby girl went through.

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But let's get into it and um so this story is out of indianapolis and I know that we have a lot of listeners in indianapolis nap down.

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So if you listen to this, please share this story, because it's a very, very important one.

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So today we're exposing the horrific actions of Zachary Arnold and his girlfriend Andrea Lopez Figueroa, whose actions in Indianapolis led to the alleged murder of Arnold's five-year-old daughter, Zara Elizabeth Arnold.

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These two exploited a broken system, while Zara's mother, Tiara, fought constantly to protect her daughter against overwhelming odds.

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Now let's piece together the criminal timeline of Zachary Arnold.

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He was a man whose unchecked obsessions and violence spiraled into unimaginable tragedy.

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We will walk through the notes, the records and the failures that defined his path.

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This isn't just a story, folks, it's a reckoning.

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Let's start at the beginning.

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So Zachary Robert Arnold is 41 years old and he's living on the east side of Indianapolis Between 2010 and 2014,.

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He racks up a public intox charge, followed by a misdemeanor battery.

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He is OR'd out of jail and six months later found not guilty.

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Then life seems stable from 2014 to 2020.

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No new criminal cases.

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But 2020 isn't going to be such a great year.

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Come September, everything goes downhill.

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Within 30 days, zach catches three new cases.

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It starts September 22nd 2020, charged with invasion of privacy for violating an ex's protective order.

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A warrant issues on September 23rd and he's arrested October 4th, released the same day with orders for video court the following month.

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But here's the kicker On that arrest day, he's charged again with invasion of privacy from another incident.

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He posts a $500 bond on the second case in his order to appear via Zoom.

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So again, just 15 days after that release, he is arrested and charged, again, this time with felony intimidation plus another invasion of privacy misdemeanor charge.

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The same day he posts a $2,500 bail and walks free.

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That's three new cases in 30 days, two jail stints.

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He hires private counsel, and all of this is wild.

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I mean he's out here breaking protection orders left and right while out on bond.

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It's just crazy.

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That is crazy and keep in mind, just so you guys are following along with the story man, because when I listen to the story I get pictures in my head, so I want to know what's going on.

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The three main characters in this story are hearing impaired or deaf people, so this dude must have like really been obsessed with his ex-lady.

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I mean you've three violation of protection orders and he must've had some loot because he bonded out 500, then 2,500, then hires a private lawyer for felonies and you know a list of other charges.

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So just to set the stage for you guys, let's back it up to early January 2021.

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Zach's out on bond for the prior invasion and intimidation charges when the state files heavy hitters an F3 rape, january 2020, an F5 stalking, january 10th 2020, and for a misdemeanor invasion of privacy counts across various states.

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Courts set a $200,000 bond.

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Then they had a reduction.

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Hearing drops it to $4,000.

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He bonds out after about two months in jail.

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Now, they didn't file these rape and stalking charges until January of 2021, but the charge date or the date of the incident dates back a year, so that's the reason for those 2020 dates.

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Now, those were big charges.

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He's looking at real time All four cases.

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They consolidate, piling on rape, stalking, intimidation and invasion of privacy.

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State and his defense attorney strike a plea Guilty to the four invasion of privacy misdemeanors.

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All of the felonies rape, stalking and intimidation are dismissed.

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I mean just from their charges.

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It was like this dude was obsessed and could not freaking control himself.

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All these charges were on Tiara, the mother of the child, correct?

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Now he was sentenced to one year plus four months on three counts time served, which was about 60 days I told you about.

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On the last, he makes it six months into the probation before he gets a violation.

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He gets one year, 365 days added, plus SAET and BIP programs, and if he completes those programs early termination is possible.

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Three months later, bam, another violation hearing.

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But per usual, nothing sticks.

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Three months after that, he's discharged from probation on April 27, 2023.

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But I still have questions.

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Why drop the felonies for misdemeanors With mountains of evidence he could have done nine years on that rape charge alone.

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That was mid-range guidelines.

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Usually it's three to 16 years for just one charge.

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Right, Aggravating and mitigating circumstances on a rape.

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I mean it could be like, like you said, maybe three to 16.

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And my brain's thinking like why isn't this man in prison?

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He had been, had he been properly prosecuted or the judge pushing a better plea.

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He may have been still in DOC as of right now.

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Right and I get Marion County is full and they got a lot of shit on their plate, but damn, it's like over and over and over shit, like back to back to back to back, obsessive shit and we really don't know a whole lot about the violation of protective orders, and then he got basically charged, was in jail a whole lot about the violation of protective orders, and then he got basically charged, was in jail, let out the same day, charged with another one that same day.

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So this dude just could not help himself.

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Could not at all.

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The plea deal couldn't I mean, it could have changed everything for Zara Arnold.

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That's Zach's daughter and you won't be surprised.

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A year post probation, arrested again in September 2024.

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That's Zach's daughter, and you won't be surprised.

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A year post-probation, arrested again in September 2024.

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Guess what?

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Another invasion of privacy.

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Three charges, two level six felonies thanks to the priors and a misdemeanor.

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He sits briefly and then post a $500 bail.

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He is on GPS until March of 2025.

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The plea hearing set for May 12th 2025, he is facing at least five years on those felonies.

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But this man mocks the system, leaning on his hearing disability for leniency.

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Now the state dismisses the felonies again and he pleads guilty to the misdemeanor invasion of privacy charge.

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This dude must have a leprechaun in his back pocket or something.

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On May 12, 2025, the court imposes check this out 360 days, with 360 days suspended and time served completely scot-free, total miscarriage of justice.

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Now, I think if the prosecutors and the judges had taken him seriously consequences, jail, a felony plea he had been behind bars.

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Seven days after this joke of a deal and five days after paternity court closes, zach Arnold's five-year-old daughter, zara, is dead at his home.

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That's the shocking shit that just gets me.

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A dissent from petty charges to unchecked violence fueled by obsession and enabled by leniency helped kill Zara Arnold.

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Zara was born February 16, 2020.

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Was born February 16, 2020.

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In May 2020, Zach Arnold, a manipulative predator, files a paternity petition in Marion County Superior Court 9 to claim his daughter from her mother, Tiara.

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He postures as a father, but chaos hits immediately, tries to dismiss days later, then reinstates.

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It's a classic control tactic.

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We see this shit all the time.

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So he's going and filing these papers and it seems like a threatening type of manner and then, oh well, let's say if she comes back to him or something he's going to recant and take—.

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Right, I see exactly what you're saying, absolutely.

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I bet that's what it was.

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I bet she left him and he was like, oh, I'm going to go file these papers.

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And then she was like no, and then she came back and she was like, fuck this, I can't handle this, and left again.

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Guarantee you, that's what happened.

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So he thrives on breaking boundaries, using his hearing impairment to demand ASL interpreters and stay engaged.

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So while he's abusing the family court to see Zara, he's out here terrorizing her mother nonstop.

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Then comes a gut-wrenching blow.

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November 16, 2020, nine-month-old Zara returns from time with Arnold with bruises and scratches on her abdomen.

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Dcs substantiates physical abuse.

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This monster is harming his infant daughter, yet he's out on bond, manipulating the paternity case.

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He and Tiara reach a shaky agreement by October, and I bet you that was by fear.

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I mean, he's already got rape charges and just violating protective order after protective order after protective order.

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You'd think the domestic laws that they have nowadays would have stopped this shit.

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Let me tell you something.

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When I was reading through the case files and all the notes and stuff, every time he got arrested and they put him in jail they would place a no contact order.

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But there was already one in place, so why place a new one?

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And then he's not following it and you're not enforcing it.

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So I'm sitting here thinking like what the fuck is the point?

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That doesn't make sense to me.

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At all.

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While Arnold's chaos unfolds, tiara fights tooth and nail to protect her daughter Zara In the paternity case.

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She files a child support worksheet in 2020 to stabilize things.

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A child support worksheet in 2020 to stabilize things.

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By July 2021, notice of intent to relocate, likely fleeing Arnold's orbit.

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In the rape charges and the stalking charges, she's probably trying to get away from this dude.

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He counters with child support modification, tightening his grip.

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Tierra withdraws relocation by January 2022, trapped in a toxic battle.

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Tierra's efforts go beyond filings.

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She's repeatedly reported Arnold to DCS and police, starting with the 2020 substantiated abuse bruises and scratches on nine-month-old Zara.

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Post-visitation In 2023, multiple bruising reports on Zara's legs and body 2023, multiple bruising reports on Zara's legs and body by 2024, flagging neglect, physical abuse and Arnold's drug use around Zara.

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She tells detectives about a chilling 2020 incident of Arnold pointing a gun at 10-month-old Zara's head during an argument.

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May 2024, reports escalate.

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Tiara tells police she saw Arnold grab Zara by the neck at a Wendy's, yanking her into his car.

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She provides three videos.

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They don't fully capture the strangulation, but surveillance confirms his aggression.

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Despite this, marion County Judge Amber Collins grants Arnold full custody in May of 2024, citing Tierra's unstable housing and paranoia Quote, unquote, paranoia.

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Shockingly, she orders Tierra to stop reporting Arnold to DCS and police silencing her cries.

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Keep that in mind, folks.

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So this judge, amber Collins, tells her stop reporting Arnold to DCSM police.

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What a bitch.

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Yeah, she's like you're paranoid.

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Quit reporting this shit to DCSM.

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How do you think she feels now?

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I bet she feels like shit she should.

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If she don't, then she's a piece of shit.

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Well, Tiara is muzzled, apparently, but DCSM reports keep coming in.

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Seven total from 2020 to 2024, including finger-shaped bruises, inappropriate grabbing, drug use.

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Only the 2020 report was substantiated, though, but the volume screams danger.

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She's fighting a system dismissing her as unreliable, handing a predator access to Zara by 2023, Lopez Figueroa enters Arnold's orbit, likely living with him and Zara the paternity case is under Judge Collins and grants Tierra primary custody in March of 2023.

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She also grants Arnold parenting time.

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He files motions alleging Tierra's non-compliance, clawing control like he always does, guarding Adelaide monitors.

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So Tiara had custody of her in 2023.

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And then by 2024,.

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This judge is giving all the custody in the world to Arnold.

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This judge is giving all the custody in the world to Arnold and it's because of in 2023, dcs report five physical abuse allegations, bruises, some finger shapes on the three-year-old after time spent with Arnold, and then because they're all substantiated.

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This is why they're calling her crazy and paranoid.

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But she's not.

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She's honestly fighting for her daughter.

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She's raising hell, trying to get custody of her daughter.

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Obviously she's going through some shit, like we all do.

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I mean, she's up on LaSalle Street, up on the east side of Indianapolis, which also reminds me.

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Do you remember the LaSalle Street murders?

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No, have you ever heard of them?

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They happened before my time.

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But my grandpa, who reminds me.

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Do you remember the LaSalle Street murders?

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No, have you ever heard of them?

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They happened before my time.

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But my grandpa, who raised me, he would always tell me about the LaSalle Street murders.

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They happened like.

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It was like the 200 block of LaSalle Street, I think it's.

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I'm pretty sure it's still unsolved.

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Three businessmen were killed, execution style.

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It was big shit in Indianapolis back when I was a kid, but yeah anyway.

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Goodness, we might do a story on that.

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We should, we should.

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Now Andrea Lopez complicity is chilling, present as Arnold slaps Zara or uses drugs, echoing her 2018 violence in front of her 11-month-old son.

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So in 2018, Andrea was married and she had a child with this guy, and this other man had a previous child in his previous relationship and he was trying to get custody of that child.

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Well, because he was trying to get custody of his child, Andrea starts freaking out and attacks him in front of their 11-month-old son together, and she gets charged with domestic battery.

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And so she's a wild one too, let's say.

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But the courts ignore all these abuse reports against Arnold and grants him 23 consecutive overnights.

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In January of 2024, after finding Tierra in contempt for denying him time, Despite warnings.

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August 2024, Arnold charged again with invasion of privacy, likely against Tierra.

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Another just a mere $500 to get him to come out of jail again.

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That blows my mind.

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So on May 15th 2025, the paternity case between Tiara and Zach closes.

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Magistrate Roseanne Tan Ang denies Arnold's claims against Tiara, but May 21st, horror erupts.

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Arnold is charged with murder and his girlfriend, andrea Lopez, faces charges for assisting a criminal in murder, failure to report two counts of neglect of a dependent resulting in death.

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An aggravated battery causing death of a child under 14 to mean Zara.

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That's so sad.

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Let's get into this probable cause affidavit because there's a lot of shocking shit in here, man, so I want to get right into it.

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This probable cause is all the detectives in the coroner's reports on it, so some of it may be repeated, but we're going to read all of them because it's all important.

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Detective Davis swears, which basically means that they affirmed that on Monday, may 19th 2025, indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department IMPD Detective Heiser, who is currently assigned to the IMPD Child Abuse Unit, received a page to call IMPD Officer Emminger.

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Detective Heiser responded to the IMPD Child Abuse Unit, received a page to call IMPD Officer Eminger.

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Detective Heiser responded to the page and spoke to Officer Eminger via phone.

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Officer Eminger stated that he, along with other IMPD East District officers, were dispatched to a death investigation on North LaSalle Street located in Indianapolis, indiana, marion County.

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On North LaSalle Street located in Indianapolis, indiana, marion County.

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Officer Eminger further stated that the information that he was given via Marion County dispatchers was a five-year-old female had fell down the stairs and was non-responsive.

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The initial 911 came through via a relay service used by hard-of-hearing and deaf individuals relay service used by hard-of-hearing and deaf individuals.

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Officer Eminger said that IMPD Sergeant Perkins arrived at the residence first and located the five-year-old child Zara Arnold.

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She was a black and white female on the couch.

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Officer Eminger noted that the only other person in the residence was Zara's father, zachary Arnold, a white male, 41 years of age.

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So it says the initial 911 call came through via a relay service used for hard of hearing and deaf individuals.

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Now, what this is and I only know this because I had a friend that was deaf and it's like it looks like a VCR box.

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You know an old VCR box that you would set on your TV or under your TV, well, and it's got like a video camera facing you and what they do is they have a remote that activates it and they call a person who can see them and then they sign language to them and then that person is the translator basically between them and whoever they're calling.

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So that's what that relay service is.

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It's actually pretty cool to see.

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I'm glad you filled in on that, because I'd never heard of it.

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Now Detective Heiser was further informed by Sergeant Perkins, moved Zara to the floor to perform life-saving measures on Zara, probably CPR.

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Sergeant Perkins noticed at the time that Zara was cold to the touch and her body was rigid.

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That means she didn't just now fall down the stairs when dude used a relay to call 911.

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Right, because rigid.

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they're talking about rigor mortis, Rigor mortis is set in Set in Right.

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So Indianapolis Emergency Response Services arrived at the residence and ultimately pronounced Zara deceased.

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At 11.07 am IMPD child abuse detective Heiser, kinder and Harris responded to the residents.

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Meanwhile IMPD child abuse detective Taylor applied for, and was granted, a search warrant for the residents.

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The warrant was granted by Judge Wehmeyer with stipulations.

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Now these stipulations say unable to seize any guns, ammunition or bladed piercing weapons and I just find that weird.

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You're coming up on a death investigation of a child.

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Why would the warrant expel those things?

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If you find them, that means you can't use them as evidence or take them into custody.

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They could have found a bloody knife, or they could have found a pistol or an AR or anything and they couldn't have fucked with it, because she stipulated that on the search warrant.

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I'm just wondering.

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I don't know a lot about law, but that's weird to me.

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Why would you?

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What's really weird about it is the dudes had so many cases for violence and and and violating protective orders and this judge is like, yeah, you can look around, but don't touch anything that could have killed anybody.

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I don't know, it don't make sense well, it does have a reference cause number of 49d32-2505-mc, which I think that's a criminal misdemeanor or something like that 015647.

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So why would she reference another case In this warrant?

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I don't know, that's weird.

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Now, once at the residence, Detective Heiser observed Zara lying on the floor just inside of the residence front door.

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Zara was observed to have multiple bruises and abrasions on her arms and face.

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She also appeared to have dried blood on her face her face.

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During Detective Heiser's initial walkthrough of the residence, he observed what appeared to be a child's tank top with blood on it by the kitchen sink and a security surveillance cameras on the exterior and interior of the residence.

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While at the residence, another 911 call came in from a female claiming to be Zara's mother.

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The female identified herself as Andrea Lopez Figuera, a Hispanic female, 30 years of age.

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She had pulled over to the side of the road.

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While contacting Marion County dispatchers, andrea was located by officers who assisted her to the IMPD Child Abuse Office.

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Impd child abuse office Officer Heiser noted that the call came in shortly after he observed Zachary take a phone out of a black case and appeared to send a text message.

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So he was already at the house.

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Right, and he noticed that Zach texted somebody and then bam, that call came in.

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Yeah, Like she was trying to.

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That's suspicious.

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That's very suspicious.

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Yeah, that's like she was trying to.

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That's suspicious.

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That's very suspicious.

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Now, Detective Davis arrived on scene a short time later and was updated on the above information.

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Marion County Coroner was already on scene.

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Detective Harris and Coroner Ramos went inside the residence with Detective Davis so she could observe Zara and the residents prior to conducting interviews of Andrea and Zachary.

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In addition to Detective Heiser's observations, Detective Davis observed what appeared to be bruising on the side and near the center of Zara's neck.

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Due to the crime lab not being on scene yet, Zara had not been moved and the extent of her visible injuries were not yet known.

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Detective Davis observed the main level of the home and the items which he had noted down.

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Detective Davis also observed the stairs to access the second floor of the home and noted that hair was found on the stairs.

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Detective Davis then requests that Zachary be transported to the IMPD child abuse office to be interviewed.

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I'll bet he did.

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Detective Davis noted while she was on scene that the property also had a detached garage on it and in front of the residence on the street was a Cadillac Escalade.

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Warrants were requested and granted for the detached structure and vehicle, as well as for electronics capable of storing data within the home and the detached structure vehicle and on Zachary's person, as well as Andrea's.

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Detective Flynn and Detective Taylor were compiling information from various law enforcement sources, open sources, commercial sources, and learned Zara's mother was not Andrea but was Tiara, a black female 33 years of age.

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Sergeant Flynn also learned the following information On May 11, 2025, two documented police dispatches occurred to Zachary's residence after Tiara called in with concerns for Zara's welfare due to believing Zachary had strangled Zara.

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Further research resulted in a documented police report of domestic disturbance involving Zachary, tiara and Zara at a Wendy's located on North Shadeland Avenue.

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The report stated Zachary strangled their daughter, zara.

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The responding officer, officer Austin, tried to locate Zara and Zachary with no success, including attempting to locate them at Zachary's residence on the South Street.

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So that was May 11th and they found Zara on May 19th.

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So eight days, eight, just yeah.

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Eight days later, tiara had called the law and was like, hey, zachary.

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Just I just saw Zachary strangle Zara in the Wendy's parking lot on Shadeland Avenue.

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I think she got video of it, but it was just him being aggressive.

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It wasn't him actually choking her.

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Right at this point in time.

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But I think we'll get into more of that in the probable cause here in a minute, More of that in the probable cause here in a minute.

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But they ended up finding the video at the Wendy's security camera system that he did freaking grab her by the neck eight days before they found her dead.

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That's another reason that this shit pisses me off.

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So Detective Davis arrived back to the IMPD child abuse office.

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Two individuals who know ASL, which is American Sign Language, but are not certified interpreters, assisted with the interpretation Because one of the employees, who works at the emergency or the EMS as a SWAT medic, has over 45 years of ASL signing experience due to one of his family members being deaf.

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And then there was another IMPD officer who offered his assistance as well because he had been using ASL sign language since he was eight or nine years old due to having family who were deaf as well.

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Now Detective Davis and Detective Kinder interviewed Andrea with the assistance of the ASL interpreter that they had at that time.

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Detective Davis was already informed that Andrea was not Zara's mother, like she tried to call in and say.

00:29:51.631 --> 00:29:53.478
Yeah, that was a weird little snippet.

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She texted her, allegedly texted her, and she calls in and says she's Zara's mother.

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Like they could look at you two and tell that's not your mother.

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That's just weird that she would claim to be her mother.

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They didn't have their story straight from the gate, that's for sure.

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Not at all.

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Not at all.

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So not only was she not her mother, but Andrea is telling the detectives that she was Zach's ex-girlfriend and that she did not live at the residence with Zachary.

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Detective Davis and Detective Kenner introduced themselves to Andrea and asked her to talk to them about why she was at the IMPD child abuse office.

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To talk to them about why she was at the IMPD child abuse office, andrea stated that she received a text at 1107 from her ex-boyfriend, zachary, stating his daughter, zara, had died.

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Andrea said she thought Zachary sent the text due to them arguing.

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Andrea said he texted her telling her he was going to kill Zara.

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Andrea said she kept telling him to stop.

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Andrea was asked if Zachary told her why and she said it was because she and Zachary were arguing, and this is the person the judge felt was mentally stable enough to give custody of Zara.

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You know.

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Yeah, and Zara's mother man.

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She had called like DCS or made reports.

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I'm talking about so many multiple times, we're not going to read them all because it's just a list as long as you know.

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Alaska.

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Yeah, and most of them were unsubstantiated.

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I mean, dude must have had a good lawyer or something, is all I can figure out, or a good act.

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I'm telling you he was using his hearing disability as a way to dummy down and play stupid, when he wasn't at all.

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He was a master manipulator.

00:31:48.936 --> 00:31:53.000
Apparently, he's manipulating the Marion County judges up there.

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Y'all didn't see it.

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Right, and I'll tell you something about DCS up there and DCS everywhere.

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I've seen people have their kids taken away for flunking a urine screen and having weed in their system.

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You know what I mean and I get that DCS can't jump on every time somebody calls.

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If somebody gets one call from DCS and said hey, I've seen them beating their kids' ass or they're doing dope around their kids, woo, woo, woo, somebody can just call and make that claim just because they're pissed off at somebody.

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But this isn't just one call or one report.

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You know what I mean.

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This is freaking a list as long as my arm.

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I know this is true too, because I have this friend and she's been in this relationship let's say, I don't know, four or five years.

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Well, ever since she's been in this relationship, I mean, she's got a mouth on her and she likes to tell people how she thinks and they get mad and they'll just call DCS on her.

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And she's the best mom in the world, from everything I've always seen, and her kids always act so good.

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But it's like once a month they're calling on her for the dumbest shit.

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Well, it's like you can't like the police come out and they say, well, it's a, he said, she said shit.

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But when it's so many freaking times, man, and there's evidence of something, something needs to be done.

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You know what I mean.

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I get it because people are like I'll call the law and just tell them this dude was pointing a pistol at me or I seen him with a bag of weed, or just some bullshit, just because they're mad at somebody trying to get him to go to jail in the heat of the moment, type shit.

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But this isn't a one-time thing here.

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This has been ongoing for years.

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The dude violated protective order.

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He's known for violence.

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He had a rape charge on the mother.

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I mean, it's just.

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It's just over and over and over.

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It's fucking sickening to me that nothing was done yeah, and and people who are calling in falsely on on people just because they're mad at them and they haven't seen abuse or, you know, they don't even suspect it.

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You guys are only hurting kids.

00:34:01.675 --> 00:34:04.355
Man, that's really getting abused, so don't fucking do that shit.

00:34:04.851 --> 00:34:11.041
Yeah, because when they call and, call and call, and every time they go out there it's unsubstantiated.

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It's going to make each visit to me a little less important if they're never finding anything, because, in the case I was telling you, there's never abuse Right.

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It's disgusting, but these calls, the bullshit calls, they're really causing harm.

00:34:34.490 --> 00:34:36.356
Yeah, they cause more harm than they do good.

00:34:36.617 --> 00:34:40.373
You want to get revenge, drive by and stick your middle finger up at them or something.

00:34:40.373 --> 00:34:44.072
Don't call DCS if there's not a real, substantiated case that you've seen.

00:34:44.072 --> 00:34:45.217
Man, come on, be real.

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That shit just fires me up, my bad.

00:34:47.911 --> 00:34:52.452
But Andrea explained that she had stayed the weekend with Zachary from Friday until Sunday.

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She said Zara was not at the house but was staying with a friend of Zachary's.

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Andrea did not know the friend's information other that they called her Aunt B.

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Andrea said when Zachary went to pick up his daughter they were arguing.

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Zachary wanted Andrea to stay the night Sunday to watch Zara, but Andrea said she didn't want to stay, that she wanted to go home.

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Andrea said that they were arguing all night.

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Zachary said he was going to hurt her.

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Zachary said to call 911.

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Andrea said she wasn't there when this was happening but she did see Zara.

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Andrea said she saw Zara around 2 or 3 pm in the afternoon.

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Andrea said in the morning that Zachary told her to go pick up Zara.

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Andrea said they left Zachary's house two or three times that day.

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She said that one of the times she left Zachary called her and was arguing.

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She left to go try to pick up Zara and Detective Davis asked Andrea if she picked Zara up and she said she did not, so you left to go pick her up.

00:35:58.637 --> 00:36:03.981
But then I guess dude called you arguing and she was probably like I'm not listening to this shit.

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You can go pick up her.

00:36:05.175 --> 00:36:06.753
I'm not even coming back.

00:36:06.753 --> 00:36:08.219
That's what she's saying.

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Right.

00:36:09.349 --> 00:36:13.360
So Andrea said Zachary picked Zara up from Aunt Bea's.

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Andrea said that she hadn't seen Zara in person since last week and she said that when she did see Zara in person, zara was not hurt and she did not see any bruises, scratches or injuries.

00:36:27.443 --> 00:36:28.585
She's lying.

00:36:29.170 --> 00:36:34.242
Detective Davis asked Andrea about Zachary texting saying he was going to kill Zara.

00:36:34.242 --> 00:36:36.789
She said Zachary called her on FaceTime and she said he was going to kill Zara.

00:36:36.789 --> 00:36:40.300
She said Zachary called her on FaceTime and she said he was going to kill Zara.

00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:48.657
Now Andrea said she thought that he was just talking but said she saw them arguing on FaceTime and Facebook Messenger.

00:36:48.657 --> 00:36:54.166
I bet that's some like deaf people.

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They're calling on Messenger.

00:36:54.989 --> 00:36:57.780
I wonder if they're doing sign language on Messenger.

00:36:57.889 --> 00:36:59.454
You can video call on Messenger.

00:36:59.755 --> 00:37:00.056
Right.

00:37:00.677 --> 00:37:01.521
Yeah, they'll stand there.

00:37:01.521 --> 00:37:05.027
It's like FaceTime, but they just stand there and look at each other and sign.

00:37:05.208 --> 00:37:05.329
Right.

00:37:05.329 --> 00:37:08.159
I bet the people around them are probably glad they're not screaming in an argument.

00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:09.856
They're screaming with their hands.

00:37:09.856 --> 00:37:11.532
I mean, that's basically what it is.

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I've never really known any deaf people so I don't know what it's about.

00:37:14.757 --> 00:37:16.601
I've just seen them like on TV and shit.

00:37:17.041 --> 00:37:18.302
I'll tell you this real funny story.

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That deaf friend I had was drunk one night and they were sitting at the table it was probably like one or two in the morning, because you know, after you drink you want to eat and then go to bed or whatever.

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But he was drunk and he was walking around the and he was making a sign for food, food.

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He was hungry.

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And then he finds some catfish nuggets or some shit like that and throws them in the oven and then he cooks them in the oven, takes them out of the oven and puts syrup all over them.

00:37:53.244 --> 00:37:53.764
Oh, my God.

00:37:54.110 --> 00:37:56.407
I'm telling you it's like a 9x12 pan of these catfish nuggets and syrup all over him.

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Oh my God.

00:37:56.360 --> 00:38:01.420
I'm telling you, it's like a nine by 12 pan of these catfish nuggets and syrup all over him, just sitting there eating.

00:38:01.670 --> 00:38:02.815
Like pancake syrup?

00:38:02.815 --> 00:38:04.335
Yes, pancake syrup.

00:38:04.335 --> 00:38:05.635
And while he's sitting, there eating them.

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he's sitting there signing to his food.

00:38:07.777 --> 00:38:10.300
Oh, food, good, food good.

00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:10.943
These are good.

00:38:10.943 --> 00:38:11.788
Oh, I just lost it.

00:38:12.489 --> 00:38:14.612
I can see that shit in my head.

00:38:14.891 --> 00:38:25.619
It was hilarious, but anyway, yes, thank God that they had to sign to argue instead of get loud loud, because that would have been scary.

00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:35.266
So then Andrea explained that she left Zachary's and said that she had turned her location off and they had shared each other's locations, like on iPhones.

00:38:35.266 --> 00:38:39.898
Andrea said that when she did this, Zachary called her and then they were arguing.

00:38:39.898 --> 00:38:46.523
Andrea said they kept arguing In attempt, he kept amping it up and Zara was crying.

00:38:46.523 --> 00:38:48.710
Andrea said that she was telling Zara.

00:38:48.710 --> 00:38:49.831
It was just words.

00:38:49.831 --> 00:38:53.739
Andrea said sometimes it's just words and it isn't personal.

00:38:53.739 --> 00:38:57.264
Andrea said Zachary was trying to hurt her.

00:38:57.264 --> 00:39:02.862
So this dude has all these protective orders that he's violated on his ex-old lady, Zara's mom.

00:39:02.862 --> 00:39:08.043
So you know, when she turned her fucking location off, this dude went nuts.

00:39:08.329 --> 00:39:12.161
I thought why was she sharing locations if that's her ex-boyfriend?

00:39:12.161 --> 00:39:14.735
I mean, did it become her ex-boyfriend?

00:39:14.896 --> 00:39:15.456
That day.

00:39:15.518 --> 00:39:26.300
After that day or after the murder occurred, Because you could have fooled me thinking that your ex, if you're still standing there giving him the time of day arguing with him.

00:39:26.579 --> 00:39:27.722
And your location, all that shit.

00:39:28.331 --> 00:39:30.297
And sharing your location with him Bullshit.

00:39:30.297 --> 00:39:31.400
That's still your boyfriend.

00:39:31.420 --> 00:39:31.661
Shut up.

00:39:33.411 --> 00:39:40.193
So later that night, when Zachary told andrea to call 9-1-1 now I see this is the first clue to make.

00:39:40.193 --> 00:39:44.182
This is what made me think that she this is when she passed away.

00:39:44.182 --> 00:39:44.362
Why?

00:39:44.362 --> 00:39:47.315
Why is she telling him to call 9-1-1 that night?

00:39:47.315 --> 00:39:49.280
She was alive but she was hurt.

00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:55.960
So this makes me think that the incident that took zara's life was the night before.

00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.454
But anyway, Andrea said she was telling Zachary to stop.

00:40:00.454 --> 00:40:05.643
She told him to stop multiple times and told him not to hurt her.

00:40:05.643 --> 00:40:10.838
She asked Zachary what Zara would do to make him hurt her.

00:40:10.838 --> 00:40:14.271
Andrea told him there was no need to hurt Zara.

00:40:14.271 --> 00:40:22.961
Andrea explained when Zachary said he was going to kill Zara, she thought that they were playing when they were talking and texting.

00:40:22.961 --> 00:40:25.137
But now she knows it's true.

00:40:25.471 --> 00:40:30.318
Also, dude said I'm going to fucking kill my daughter if you don't come back home and turn your location on.

00:40:30.769 --> 00:40:41.864
I thought he was just playing Bullshit and you'll see when you've watched him choke out this poor baby multiple times before this, you thought he was playing.

00:40:41.864 --> 00:40:42.445
Yeah.

00:40:42.445 --> 00:40:50.483
Now Andrea went on to say she and Zachary were arguing all night and he kept saying he was going to hurt Zara.

00:40:50.483 --> 00:40:53.878
Andrea explained the arguing was worse.

00:40:53.878 --> 00:40:58.061
There was choking and white foam coming from Zara's mouth.

00:40:58.061 --> 00:41:00.498
Andrea said Zachary hurt her.

00:41:00.498 --> 00:41:04.221
She was telling him on FaceTime to stop and he never listened.

00:41:04.221 --> 00:41:10.443
Andrea said Zara got in trouble because she wasn't listening to the rules at Aunt Bea's house.

00:41:10.443 --> 00:41:22.070
Andrea said during that time Zachary sent photos of Zara on the floor and said Zara had white foam coming from her mouth.

00:41:22.230 --> 00:41:27.322
And this was the night before the 911 call where they found the poor little baby passed away.

00:41:27.603 --> 00:41:27.882
Right.

00:41:28.210 --> 00:41:38.065
So she was gone on the 18th, which was only seven days from the mother's report of him strangling her at the Whitney's on Shadeland Avenue.

00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:41.179
Detective Davis suggested they take a break.

00:41:41.179 --> 00:41:54.777
Detective Davis and Detective Kinder stepped out and at this point learned that certified interpreters were located to assist both in person and via video relay.

00:41:54.777 --> 00:42:03.141
Detective Davis also learned Zara's mother had been located and was on her way to the IMPD child abuse office.

00:42:03.141 --> 00:42:10.496
Zara's mother arrived and was taken into an interview room so they could speak with her.

00:42:11.152 --> 00:42:16.574
I bet she was heartbroken, Like I told you, motherfuckers, that he's been doing this shit Like a week ago.

00:42:16.574 --> 00:42:17.757
He choked her at Wendy's.

00:42:17.757 --> 00:42:22.219
God it pisses me off, but this is the interview of Zara's mother.

00:42:22.219 --> 00:42:35.101
Sergeant Flynn utilized the interpreter via the video relay, who informed the mother of Zara's death Shortly after Detective Davis and Detective Kinder stepped into the room to speak with the mother about Zara.

00:42:35.101 --> 00:42:38.630
Davis and Detective Kinder stepped into the room to speak with the mother about Zara.

00:42:38.630 --> 00:42:46.215
While taking a statement from the mother, LTC, an interpreter Swinton arrived and took over the translation.

00:42:46.215 --> 00:42:56.844
The mother explained that she did not have custody of Zara and had not seen Zara since September of last year, except for happening onto Zara and Zachary at Wendy's last week.

00:42:56.844 --> 00:43:03.824
She stated that when she saw Zara last September, Zara looked skinny but was otherwise fine.

00:43:03.824 --> 00:43:13.012
She said that she had been told by people who know Zachary and Zara that Zara wasn't living with Zachary but with her grandma.

00:43:13.012 --> 00:43:21.358
She also heard that Zachary and another person were doing cocaine in front of Zara and Zachary was starving Zara.

00:43:22.090 --> 00:43:32.880
That would explain his manic, crazy effort behavior of arguing with his old lady for hours on end.

00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:34.295
Who can argue that long?

00:43:34.369 --> 00:43:43.280
Flying off the handle like instantly and tripping out on locations and violating you know order.

00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:44.603
Yeah, paranoia and shit.

00:43:44.603 --> 00:43:49.380
Absolutely it fucking describes it and yeah, explains it.

00:43:49.380 --> 00:43:54.012
Tiara explained that zachary had been very controlling during their relationship.

00:43:54.012 --> 00:43:58.681
She stated one day it got very serious and they had been arguing for seven hours.

00:43:58.681 --> 00:44:04.601
She stated that Zachary went into the garage and came back with a gun.

00:44:04.601 --> 00:44:08.179
She said Zachary pointed the gun at Zara's head.

00:44:09.250 --> 00:44:11.117
Zara was an infant during this time.

00:44:11.117 --> 00:44:15.420
She said she tried to leave him after this incident and he got pissed off.

00:44:15.420 --> 00:44:19.090
She said when she did leave him this incident and he got pissed off.

00:44:19.090 --> 00:44:21.431
She said when she did leave him, zara was around 10 months old.

00:44:21.431 --> 00:44:28.380
She explained Zachary had parenting time with Zara but was court ordered to have a third party with him and Zara during this time.

00:44:28.380 --> 00:44:33.206
She stated that Zara would come back from multiple visits with bruises.

00:44:33.206 --> 00:44:38.929
She also spoke about the police report she filed a week prior regarding Zachary and Zara at Wendy's.

00:44:38.929 --> 00:44:45.936
She claimed Zachary had been following her and she said she saw them at Wendy's while she had been across the street.

00:44:45.936 --> 00:44:52.119
She said Zara tried to run to her and Zachary grabbed Zara by the throat and took off.

00:44:53.554 --> 00:44:58.032
She shared three short video recordings of this incident with the detectives.

00:44:58.032 --> 00:45:03.545
The video that she shared did not show Zachary strangling Zara.

00:45:03.545 --> 00:45:10.224
Detective Taylor had applied for, and was granted, a warrant for the restaurant's video surveillance.

00:45:10.224 --> 00:45:27.387
Detective Taylor was able to retrieve the video from Wendy's Detective Taylor, davis and Kinder observed this video and could see Zachary grab Zara by her neck and put Zara in a black Cadillac Escalade in an aggressive, quick manner, then drive off.

00:45:27.387 --> 00:45:30.795
Now why did it take like seven days?

00:45:30.795 --> 00:45:37.465
I mean to get the video when somebody says, hey, this dude has just strangled my baby girl.

00:45:39.853 --> 00:45:42.121
Yeah, that's an unanswered question I have.

00:45:42.121 --> 00:45:52.414
If she's saying, oh, it happened at Wendy's, well, why didn't the responding officer in their investigation go to that Wendy's and request If her videos didn't show it?

00:45:52.414 --> 00:45:56.483
And there was going to be another surveillance system, which you're?

00:45:56.483 --> 00:45:58.860
At Wendy's there's a surveillance system there.

00:45:58.880 --> 00:45:59.583
I watched the first 48.

00:45:59.583 --> 00:46:00.510
Why wouldn't you go down there?

00:46:00.510 --> 00:46:01.871
I watched the first 48.

00:46:01.871 --> 00:46:03.394
A lot on these murders and shit.

00:46:03.394 --> 00:46:05.880
And they go straight in there and be like, hey, can I see your video?

00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:06.561
You know what I mean.

00:46:06.561 --> 00:46:07.844
And they show it to them.

00:46:07.844 --> 00:46:11.655
It's not like they have to have a search warrant for a video at Wendy's.

00:46:11.695 --> 00:46:16.981
Because usually if a detective or something goes in there and asks, they'll oblige.

00:46:17.983 --> 00:46:19.724
most of the time Because they want to help.

00:46:19.724 --> 00:46:20.885
It's just a restaurant.

00:46:20.929 --> 00:46:22.096
They didn't do anything wrong.

00:46:22.250 --> 00:46:25.360
Like hey, somebody's seen a little girl get strangled out in your parking lot.

00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:26.695
Can we check your video out?

00:46:26.695 --> 00:46:27.331
You would think.

00:46:27.331 --> 00:46:31.572
I mean, I don't know the process, in different states there are different laws and rules.

00:46:31.572 --> 00:46:32.833
Had they done that, though?

00:46:32.833 --> 00:46:34.393
Had they done that?

00:46:34.534 --> 00:46:39.998
would Zara have been in his care and control seven days later?

00:46:39.998 --> 00:46:41.099
Absolutely not.

00:46:41.099 --> 00:46:43.721
No, she would have still be here.

00:46:44.061 --> 00:46:44.882
Absolutely would.

00:46:45.943 --> 00:46:51.907
So they go and do a second interview with Andrea Lopez.

00:46:51.907 --> 00:47:02.552
Detective Davis and Detective Kinder interviewed Andrea again, this time utilizing a certified interpreter.

00:47:02.552 --> 00:47:16.907
Due to Andrea disclosing her initial statement that she witnessed Zachary choking Zara last night, Detective Davis and Detective Kinder believed Andrea was possibly more involved than initially known to them and wanted to advise Andrea of her rights.

00:47:16.907 --> 00:47:24.184
The ASL interpreter interpreted her rights to her during this interview.

00:47:24.184 --> 00:47:28.989
Detective Davis went over what they had talked about earlier.

00:47:28.989 --> 00:47:34.523
Andrea then explained in further detail what occurred on Sunday May 18th.

00:47:35.371 --> 00:47:40.413
Andrea confirmed the arguing started over relationship issues.

00:47:40.413 --> 00:47:48.534
The argument started around 2 pm and went all the way until about 1 am when she finally got to go to sleep.

00:47:48.534 --> 00:47:52.440
She confirmed she left Zachary's house at 2 pm.

00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:58.481
Andrea said this was when the arguing started between herself and Zachary.

00:47:58.481 --> 00:48:01.599
She said she thinks it stopped around 1 am.

00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.884
Andrea said at first she left to go to the mall with Zachary because she had to exchange something.

00:48:07.884 --> 00:48:17.699
Well, they must have not been arguing too damn bad, because if you're arguing for 11, 12 hours, you sure in the hell ain't going to want to take him to go exchange something with you.

00:48:17.699 --> 00:48:19.436
You're going to want some peace and quiet, right?

00:48:19.590 --> 00:48:20.675
And she was at the house.

00:48:20.715 --> 00:48:23.637
Well, yeah, I thought they were broke up.

00:48:23.637 --> 00:48:25.657
They're not boyfriend and girlfriend, remember.

00:48:25.657 --> 00:48:27.255
That's what she's saying.

00:48:27.809 --> 00:48:36.141
But they argued for hours on end over relationship issues and she was there that Sunday when we believed that the poor little girl was attacked.

00:48:36.690 --> 00:48:38.217
They came back to Zachary's house.

00:48:38.217 --> 00:48:41.018
She dropped him off and then she had to go.

00:48:41.018 --> 00:48:50.961
She told him she thought she wanted to be single and needed to think and Jerry said, after she left around 2 pm, Zach called her.

00:48:50.961 --> 00:48:59.096
But then, well, it just said she left at 2 pm with him to go to the mall to exchange stuff, so it must have been later that day.

00:48:59.096 --> 00:49:07.204
Well, anyway, Zach called her and she told him that he should pick up Zara so he could spend time with her.

00:49:07.204 --> 00:49:11.420
Zachary started getting frustrated and argumentative so she hung up.

00:49:11.420 --> 00:49:18.829
Zachary then went to pick up Zara hung up.

00:49:18.829 --> 00:49:19.592
Zachary then went to pick up Zara.

00:49:19.612 --> 00:49:24.282
After confirmation of what Andrea had stated in her initial statement, Andrea was then advised of her rights prior to further questioning.

00:49:24.282 --> 00:49:30.422
Andrea said sometimes they would be on Facebook Messenger, then FaceTime and then at times he would hang up.

00:49:30.422 --> 00:49:32.413
He went back and forth on both.

00:49:32.413 --> 00:49:40.746
Andrea said on the last call, when they were talking, he took Zara to the bedroom and at that time it looked like she was breathing.

00:49:40.746 --> 00:49:46.222
Andrea said Zara's face was red and it looked like she had blood in her mouth.

00:49:46.222 --> 00:49:49.539
Andrea described one of the video calls.

00:49:49.539 --> 00:49:56.304
She said this was in the morning, May 19th, after he had sent multiple texts to her.

00:49:56.304 --> 00:50:03.302
She said she and Zachary were arguing and he was changing Zara's clothes.

00:50:03.302 --> 00:50:06.760
When she came back, Zachary was crying and crying.

00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:10.280
Andrea said Zara was just lying there.

00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.458
Andrea said she asked Zach what he did.

00:50:13.458 --> 00:50:22.858
Andrea said she could see Zara and could see bruises on her backside and her arms, but she didn't get a full look.

00:50:23.170 --> 00:50:28.436
So on Messenger she saw the bruises all over this child but didn't get a full look.

00:50:28.436 --> 00:50:31.400
And this is the like first thing the next morning.

00:50:31.829 --> 00:50:35.865
Well, they'll know if—they'll be able to ping her phone and find out exactly where she was.

00:50:35.949 --> 00:50:37.632
Oh, absolutely, she was bullshitting.

00:50:38.677 --> 00:50:45.532
Now Zachary said that she wasn't breathing and he was doing compressions on the bed.

00:50:45.532 --> 00:50:52.034
Zachary took Zara upstairs and changed her clothes in the bedroom and Zachary tried to wake her up.

00:50:52.034 --> 00:50:54.918
He took Zara back downstairs on the couch.

00:50:54.918 --> 00:51:00.315
Zachary told Andrea that Zara's nose was bleeding and he tried to clean it with a towel.

00:51:00.315 --> 00:51:04.043
Andrea said Zachary was pacing back and forth.

00:51:04.043 --> 00:51:16.822
Now Andrea was asked what clothes Zara had on before Zachary changed them and she said Zara had blue leggings on and said that Zachary told her that Zara had urinated in them.

00:51:17.150 --> 00:51:24.403
See, man, I mean, if my little baby girl was laying there not breathing obviously rigid, which we know now.

00:51:24.403 --> 00:51:31.943
The last thing I'm going to do is drag her up and down the stairs, move her in multiple places and change her clothes.

00:51:32.070 --> 00:51:33.746
You know why she probably had urinated in them?

00:51:33.746 --> 00:51:34.324
Because he killed her.

00:51:34.297 --> 00:51:34.744
Yeah, don't when you die your body.

00:51:34.744 --> 00:51:35.251
Expels the fluid, change her clothes.

00:51:35.251 --> 00:51:36.398
You know why she probably had urinated in them Because he killed her.

00:51:36.398 --> 00:51:39.202
That's why she Don't when you die your body expels the fluid.

00:51:39.202 --> 00:51:41.579
You lose your bodily fluids Absolutely.

00:51:42.190 --> 00:51:45.280
I bet you that's why she had urinated in them.

00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:46.715
I almost guarantee it.

00:51:46.769 --> 00:52:00.335
What it was was dude woke up, seen what he did last night, started to try to cover up shit and was like oh, she must have fell down the stairs.

00:52:00.355 --> 00:52:04.130
It's a mess, andrew said yesterday when they were arguing he went upstairs to the bedroom and they continued arguing more.

00:52:04.130 --> 00:52:07.016
She said there was something about the bath.

00:52:07.016 --> 00:52:12.835
In the arguing andrew said zachary put zara in the bath last night, just a quick one to wash her.

00:52:12.835 --> 00:52:17.668
Wash off her face due to blood being on her face.

00:52:17.668 --> 00:52:28.195
Andrea explained zara and zachary were in the car and zara had a little blood on her face and blood spots on her shirt from when he picked her up from aunt bees.

00:52:28.195 --> 00:52:36.400
Andrea and zachary facetimed her while he was in the car and told her look, look, look and showed her Zara's face.

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.139
Andrea said she knows he hurt her.

00:52:39.871 --> 00:52:45.103
Andrea said Zachary continued to call via FaceTime or send Facebook messages, arguing with her.

00:52:45.103 --> 00:52:50.402
Andrea said later Sunday evening Zachary FaceTimed her at one point and was choking Zara.

00:52:50.402 --> 00:52:52.932
Andrea said she was waving at him, telling him to stop multiple times.

00:52:52.932 --> 00:52:55.496
Andrea said she was waving at him, telling him to stop multiple times.

00:52:55.496 --> 00:53:01.483
She said Zara was kicking and he held her legs down with his feet while he was choking her.

00:53:01.483 --> 00:53:06.711
Andrea said Zachary also held Zara up by her throat.

00:53:06.711 --> 00:53:11.481
Andrea said she had foam on her mouth and her eyes were closing while his hand was around her neck.

00:53:11.481 --> 00:53:19.213
Andrea said she screenshotted this because she kept telling him to stop.

00:53:19.233 --> 00:53:20.896
Detective Davis asked Andrea how Zara's body was during this.

00:53:20.896 --> 00:53:25.594
Andrea said before Zara was trying to run and escape and trying to run off.

00:53:25.594 --> 00:53:31.313
Andrea said she kept telling Zachary to leave Zara alone, making Andrea feel angry.

00:53:31.313 --> 00:53:43.019
Andrea said she was telling him to stop and he said no, zara would try to run and Zachary would grab her, grab her by her hair and kick and kept grabbing her.

00:53:43.019 --> 00:53:47.436
Andrea said Zachary would kick and hold Zara's feet and then choke her.

00:53:47.737 --> 00:53:50.061
That is so horrible, I'm telling you.

00:53:50.061 --> 00:53:54.097
I think this is the moment that he murdered her.

00:53:54.297 --> 00:53:56.603
I absolutely do do too, and he's yanking her by her hair.

00:53:56.623 --> 00:54:08.862
That's probably how the hair got on the staircase andre said, most of the time zachary would choke zara in the bedroom, sometimes in the kitchen, on the stairs and upstairs.

00:54:08.862 --> 00:54:17.143
Zachary would also choke zara while she was on the bed and sometimes he would hold her in the air, choking her.

00:54:17.143 --> 00:54:21.701
Andrea describes Zara struggling when she was trying to breathe.

00:54:21.701 --> 00:54:27.563
She ended up telling Zachary, while he was choking Zara, that she thought she was pregnant.

00:54:28.030 --> 00:54:35.434
So in the middle of her choking Zara, or him choking Zara, she's like stop choking her, I'm probably pregnant with another baby.

00:54:35.434 --> 00:54:36.637
You're going to kill mine too.

00:54:36.637 --> 00:54:38.420
Basically is how I took that.

00:54:38.420 --> 00:54:39.262
That's crazy.

00:54:39.262 --> 00:54:42.559
You think it was a stop tactic or something.

00:54:43.893 --> 00:54:48.643
Why would that be crossing your mind when this little girl's getting the shit choked out of her?

00:54:48.909 --> 00:54:50.235
I don't know man, it's weird.

00:54:51.349 --> 00:54:54.635
It's very odd, to say the least.

00:54:54.635 --> 00:55:00.664
Now, Andrea said Zachary stopped choking Zara and started crying.

00:55:00.664 --> 00:55:04.099
Andrea said she thought Zara looked like she was breathing.

00:55:04.099 --> 00:55:08.840
Andrea was asking if she knew choking someone could kill them.

00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:16.985
She said she thought he wouldn't do it anymore, even though she said he has choked Zara more than 10 times already.

00:55:16.985 --> 00:55:22.916
Andrea said she felt like it was too late for her she should have called.

00:55:22.916 --> 00:55:28.623
Andrea said she told him don't hurt Zara and to hurt her instead.

00:55:28.623 --> 00:55:34.322
Andrea admitted to not calling 911 for Zara due to her fear of Zachary.

00:55:34.322 --> 00:55:40.721
Well, she's not even in the same spot as him, so Supposedly Right.

00:55:43.891 --> 00:55:50.719
But anyway, Andrea disclosed Zachary has beat her multiple times in the past and stated she has reported this to police.

00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.710
She said more recently he started beating Zara.

00:55:53.710 --> 00:55:57.221
Andrea said she never reported the abuse to Zara.

00:55:57.221 --> 00:56:01.541
He was beating Zara from the time she was an infant.

00:56:01.690 --> 00:56:08.043
This dude was beating everybody that was around him like a domestic freaking maniac.

00:56:08.043 --> 00:56:13.603
But now the probable cause affidavit goes to the interview of Zara's father, zachary Arnold.

00:56:13.603 --> 00:56:16.222
Detective Davis and Detective Kinder interviewed Zachary at the child abuse office with the help of aara's father, zachary Arnold.

00:56:16.222 --> 00:56:20.885
Detective Davis and Detective Kinder interviewed Zachary at the child abuse office with the help of a sign language interpreter.

00:56:20.885 --> 00:56:24.896
Zachary was advised of his rights, to which he stated that he understood.

00:56:24.896 --> 00:56:27.951
He waived his rights and spoke to the detectives.

00:56:27.951 --> 00:56:35.052
Initially, zachary said that he told the officers what happened that Zara had fell down the stairs.

00:56:35.052 --> 00:56:37.840
When he woke up this morning she was already cold.

00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:44.682
Zachary said that he was so upset when he was clutching the floor and he was like hurry, but it was too late.

00:56:44.682 --> 00:56:49.201
He said he woke up this morning and she was lying by the stairs.

00:56:49.201 --> 00:56:53.481
Zachary said Zara was happy until this morning when he found her.

00:56:53.481 --> 00:56:59.003
He said he picked her up and fell and that's how he got the marks on him.

00:56:59.789 --> 00:57:05.742
Zachary showed the detectives multiple bruises, scratches and swelling on his arms and legs.

00:57:05.742 --> 00:57:10.320
Zachary later admitted Zara did not fall down the stairs.

00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:15.193
He stated Zara had stayed the weekend with Aunt Bea, who is like an aunt to Zara.

00:57:15.193 --> 00:57:17.856
He stated Zara had stayed the weekend with Aunt Bea, who is like an aunt to Zara.

00:57:17.856 --> 00:57:23.039
He stated Aunt Bea will help watch Zara for him and he pays her $60 to watch her over the weekend.

00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:29.925
Zachary said he dropped Zara off around 9 or 10 am on Friday and Zara stayed there for the weekend.

00:57:29.925 --> 00:57:32.847
He picked her up on Sunday around 3 or 4 pm.

00:57:32.847 --> 00:57:39.233
He claimed Zara was happy when he picked her up.

00:57:39.253 --> 00:57:42.384
Zachary then went on to confirm he and Andrea had been arguing over their relationship issues.

00:57:42.384 --> 00:57:46.576
He admitted to wrapping his hands around Zara's neck and choking her.

00:57:46.576 --> 00:57:54.282
He said that he did this two or three times last night, but also confirmed that he has choked Zara on previous occasions as well.

00:57:54.282 --> 00:58:00.056
Zachary was shown photos of Zara's injuries and described how Zara was injured.

00:58:00.056 --> 00:58:04.851
He admitted to grabbing Zara's arms because her behavior was terrible.

00:58:04.851 --> 00:58:07.878
At Aunt Bea's, zachary said she wasn't listening.

00:58:07.878 --> 00:58:19.619
Zachary admitted to hitting Zara's face with his open hand, holding Zara's legs down with his feet while choking her and holding Zara's head down with his foot while choking her.

00:58:19.619 --> 00:58:22.699
He was asked how is there blood in your car?

00:58:22.699 --> 00:58:27.382
He said that it doesn't make any sense that all the bleeding happened inside the house.

00:58:28.331 --> 00:58:29.737
So there's blood in his car.

00:58:29.737 --> 00:58:33.340
That blood is probably from a previous abuse incident.

00:58:33.340 --> 00:58:37.280
I mean, if not Zara, he's abusing Andrea.

00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.119
I mean it could be from anybody he hit.

00:58:41.490 --> 00:58:42.012
Who knows?

00:58:42.012 --> 00:58:48.277
But I thought Andrea did say that she saw blood on her face in her shirt, but was that a FaceTime call or whatever?

00:58:48.277 --> 00:58:48.599
Who knows?

00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:52.958
Their stories are so mixed up at this point, but we know the fucking truth and it's coming out.

00:58:53.630 --> 00:58:57.878
Zachary was asked to describe Zara while his hands were wrapped around her throat.

00:58:57.878 --> 00:58:59.195
This is so heartbreaking.

00:58:59.195 --> 00:59:07.021
Zachary said Andrea was telling Zara she loved her and everything was going to be okay, while he was grabbing her by the throat.

00:59:07.021 --> 00:59:12.661
Zachary said Andrea did this to him and is making him out to be a monster.

00:59:12.661 --> 00:59:16.646
Zachary said Andrea was laughing the whole time.

00:59:16.646 --> 00:59:25.615
I'm telling you I got a weird vibe from this Andrea chick because she threw a fit because her ex-husband wanted custody of his previous child.

00:59:25.615 --> 00:59:29.871
She literally domestically battered him and went to jail over it.

00:59:29.871 --> 00:59:35.630
So I don't think this Andrea is as innocent as she's playing it up to be at all.

00:59:35.630 --> 00:59:40.554
I think she definitely had a part, a hand in it.

00:59:41.014 --> 00:59:47.150
100 no, and do you see something that's um the same parallel with her last bullshit case and her last?

00:59:47.150 --> 00:59:52.197
Oh man, this is zachary's baby girl from a previous marriage.

00:59:52.237 --> 00:59:58.626
So yes you know, she was hating too yeah, and which was probably fueling his anger more.

00:59:58.626 --> 01:00:02.677
She was probably antagonizing it.

01:00:02.677 --> 01:00:06.985
That's the vibe that I'm getting now.

01:00:06.985 --> 01:00:15.061
Zachary said this happened now and the past times, which he stated was less than five times bullshit.

01:00:15.061 --> 01:00:15.983
I don't believe that.

01:00:15.983 --> 01:00:22.159
While he was having an argument with andrea, zachary said she drove him to do this.

01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:30.460
He said this time was just a little bit worse, referring to the severity of him choking and strangling zara.

01:00:30.460 --> 01:00:33.717
Zachary said he wasn't trying to kill zara and said andrea just made him go crazy.

01:00:33.717 --> 01:00:36.068
Zachary said he told andrea to kill Zara and said Andrea just made him go crazy.

01:00:36.068 --> 01:00:41.621
Zachary said he told Andrea to call 911 before he hurt her.

01:00:41.621 --> 01:00:45.760
Zachary said he was sober on Sunday when he did this.

01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:52.592
So you're sober and acting like this, which obviously I don't believe, but I mean.

01:00:52.592 --> 01:01:00.670
But if you're acting like this sober, could you imagine all up on cocaine?

01:01:02.556 --> 01:01:10.782
no, I couldn't imagine that you know, what's really heartbreaking to me is, you know, growing up as a kid up there, I've been in all kinds of situations and shit.

01:01:10.782 --> 01:01:28.298
When I was a kid I could only imagine the hell this poor little baby girl went through happy times they're probably getting high on coke and maybe happy for an hour or two and then they're beating the shit out of her and then they're arguing and then she's getting choked and getting fucked up.

01:01:28.358 --> 01:01:28.920
I don't know.

01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.394
It's just horrible to even think about.

01:01:31.394 --> 01:01:32.599
Even picture it in my head.

01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:33.440
It's disgusting.

01:01:33.869 --> 01:01:37.280
And life in the inner city is not pretty.

01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:39.217
It's really not pretty for anyone.

01:01:39.217 --> 01:01:46.724
Because I'm telling you, a lot of them, a very high percentage of them, are living in poverty.

01:01:46.724 --> 01:01:54.041
A lot of them are on Social Security and disability and they have nothing.

01:01:54.771 --> 01:02:01.458
It's been 15 years since we've been up there and it's just changed a whole lot since we've been up there, so I can only imagine what the fuck's going on up there now.

01:02:02.570 --> 01:02:09.284
Detective Davis and Kinder continued to ask Zachary to walk through the last moments he saw his daughter alive.

01:02:09.284 --> 01:02:17.570
To help the detective understand how she obtained all of her injuries and what her body was like when she was being strangled.

01:02:17.570 --> 01:02:22.561
Zachary was shown a picture of Zara's injuries behind her ear.

01:02:22.561 --> 01:02:29.922
Zachary said he didn't pull her ear but she probably got the injury from him hitting her in the face with an open hand.

01:02:29.922 --> 01:02:31.813
A five-year-old baby girl.

01:02:31.813 --> 01:02:46.711
Zachary said that the bruising on Zara's neck is from him choking her, zachary said after he stopped choking her the last time that night, zara told him she was tired and then she climbed into bed.

01:02:46.711 --> 01:02:52.864
Zachary said it was her bedtime so he thought she was just tired, zachary said.

01:02:52.864 --> 01:02:55.317
Zara asked him why'd you hurt me?

01:02:55.317 --> 01:02:56.820
Why do you hurt me?

01:02:56.820 --> 01:02:58.215
I love you Dad.

01:02:58.730 --> 01:03:01.452
That sounds like some shit that he fabricated in his own head.

01:03:01.452 --> 01:03:07.057
She told him she was tired and ready to go to bed and he took her up there and tucked her in and read her a story.

01:03:07.269 --> 01:03:10.175
After he just got done strangling the fuck out of her.

01:03:10.175 --> 01:03:18.056
Zachary described Zara's eyes closing while she was asking him why he hurt her.

01:03:18.056 --> 01:03:19.882
So his.

01:03:19.882 --> 01:03:23.311
That makes me think he was strangling her.

01:03:23.311 --> 01:03:24.806
He was strangling her.

01:03:24.806 --> 01:03:29.963
This makes me think that he is strangling her at this time that she's saying why are you hurt?

01:03:29.963 --> 01:03:32.130
Or trying to say why are you hurting me, dad?

01:03:32.210 --> 01:03:33.353
That's what I'm saying.

01:03:33.353 --> 01:03:34.103
That's some shit.

01:03:34.103 --> 01:03:35.166
He fabricated up.

01:03:35.166 --> 01:03:37.047
She's not even talking manners.

01:03:37.047 --> 01:03:38.286
She's screaming and crying.

01:03:38.940 --> 01:03:39.804
Even young children.

01:03:39.804 --> 01:03:43.320
They sign certain stuff if they have both parents.

01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:55.239
Oh, I didn't think about that If they have both parents, if her arms are free and she could maybe try to sign, because I'm sure if both of her parents are hearing disabled, she knows some sign language.

01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:00.592
Just like a five-year-old can pick up us talking, they pick up how their parents sign.

01:04:00.751 --> 01:04:10.974
Yes, and I know this because my friend, friend, I told you they had a son and his name was I don't even remember his name, maybe jeremiah or something like that, but he, um, he would.

01:04:10.974 --> 01:04:19.643
He was young, maybe five or six, when I met him and he was signing and talking to them, and so they can communicate with their parents.

01:04:20.445 --> 01:04:23.492
It's just like a language so he, so she could have been signing.

01:04:23.492 --> 01:04:24.474
Why are you hurting me?

01:04:24.474 --> 01:04:25.342
I love you, dad.

01:04:25.362 --> 01:04:34.228
Please stop type yeah, even if she's right jesus so back to where we were.

01:04:34.427 --> 01:04:37.496
Zachary said she couldn't keep her eyes open.

01:04:37.496 --> 01:04:40.623
Zachary said he should have gone back to check on her.

01:04:40.623 --> 01:04:44.371
He always went back to check on her after choking her.

01:04:44.371 --> 01:04:45.333
So here we go.

01:04:45.333 --> 01:04:50.389
This is multiple times, but he was so upset with Andrea he didn't this time.

01:04:50.389 --> 01:04:58.230
Zachary continued to go through the photos and said he didn't understand the injury to Zara's face.

01:04:58.230 --> 01:05:02.300
Zachary explained the first time he choked Zara Sarah last night.

01:05:02.300 --> 01:05:03.561
She was fighting him.

01:05:03.561 --> 01:05:08.306
He held her legs down with her feet while choking her.

01:05:08.306 --> 01:05:10.947
He then held her head down with his feet.

01:05:10.947 --> 01:05:19.514
He said he wasn't wearing shoes and he wasn't pressing hard on her face but thought the socks caused the injury from rubbing against her face.

01:05:19.514 --> 01:05:22.856
Well, he's already said he openly had smacked the shit out of her.

01:05:24.940 --> 01:05:26.213
This ain't some young punk man who's immature either.

01:05:26.213 --> 01:05:27.766
This dude is 41 years old.

01:05:27.807 --> 01:05:32.003
This is a grown, grown man, yeah he's an older dude, 41?

01:05:32.003 --> 01:05:32.003
.

01:05:32.083 --> 01:05:34.547
I mean, you're not no little kid, immature punk.

01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:35.943
And you know right from wrong.

01:05:35.943 --> 01:05:42.806
And people, just because somebody has a hearing disability, that does not make them any less smart than you.

01:05:42.806 --> 01:05:54.440
It may disable them from hearing, but I promise you the rest of their senses are extra like picking up stuff right they don't have that.

01:05:54.820 --> 01:05:56.704
They're not able to talk.

01:05:56.704 --> 01:06:02.641
So you know, their other senses make up for some, uh, some of that stuff.

01:06:02.641 --> 01:06:07.704
Zachary said the second time he choked Sarah last night she wasn't fighting.

01:06:07.704 --> 01:06:14.150
He described seeing bubbles come out of her nose and said that has never happened before.

01:06:14.150 --> 01:06:18.351
Zachary said he woke up this morning and found Sarah in bed.

01:06:18.351 --> 01:06:23.860
He said she was cold when he touched her and the blanket wasn't all the way on her.

01:06:23.860 --> 01:06:29.123
He said he made her a warm bath and went back downstairs to get her.

01:06:29.123 --> 01:06:32.306
Zachary said Zara's leg was stiff and straight.

01:06:32.306 --> 01:06:45.652
He was asked if Zara had stopped breathing before he put her in bed last night and he said she was breathing fine and normal, but then he admitted she was struggling to breathe a little bit.

01:06:46.032 --> 01:06:48.414
So this is kind of some deranged shit.

01:06:48.414 --> 01:06:51.576
The little baby has obviously passed away.

01:06:51.576 --> 01:06:55.378
When he goes up there the next day, she's dead from last night, yeah, okay.

01:06:55.378 --> 01:06:59.731
So he's taking this baby and trying to put her in a warm bath.

01:06:59.731 --> 01:07:01.688
You know, she's already stiff and cold and gray.

01:07:01.940 --> 01:07:05.068
Do you think he did, or do you think he's just saying that?

01:07:05.068 --> 01:07:05.990
I don't know.

01:07:05.990 --> 01:07:08.588
Because didn't he put her in the bath the night before.

01:07:08.588 --> 01:07:17.472
Oh, he put her in the bath because she had urinated all over herself, and he changed her clothes before the EMS got there.

01:07:17.940 --> 01:07:19.005
Trying to hide some shit.

01:07:19.139 --> 01:07:20.063
Trying to hide her.

01:07:20.063 --> 01:07:21.467
You know expelling.

01:07:21.909 --> 01:07:25.268
Right and blood and whatever else have you Uh-huh.

01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:30.110
Now Zach's injuries were photographed and a buckle swab was collected.

01:07:30.110 --> 01:07:34.530
Zach admitted some of the scratches on his arms were probably from Zara.

01:07:34.530 --> 01:07:36.106
She was fighting him.

01:07:36.460 --> 01:07:37.927
Hell yeah, she was fighting him For life.

01:07:38.539 --> 01:07:43.831
Zachary was arrested and transported to the Marion County Intake at the Community Justice Center.

01:07:44.612 --> 01:07:45.534
The old paddy wagon.

01:07:45.534 --> 01:07:49.670
Now we move to the interview of Aunt Bea.

01:07:49.670 --> 01:07:55.072
Detective Davis and Detective Kendrew interview her with the assistance of an interpreter.

01:07:55.072 --> 01:07:56.987
So she must have been deaf too.

01:07:56.987 --> 01:08:07.007
So now Andrea is deaf, the mother, Tiara, is deaf, Zach, the father, is deaf and Aunt Bea is deaf.

01:08:07.007 --> 01:08:11.306
It must be like I wonder if the baby was deaf too, it's easier for them to communicate with.

01:08:12.059 --> 01:08:18.313
There's a big community of deaf people in Indianapolis and they're probably all friends.

01:08:18.493 --> 01:08:22.810
You know what I remember being up there, like at 10th and Rule and there was a sign like a deaf school.

01:08:22.810 --> 01:08:23.456
There was like signs up through there.

01:08:23.408 --> 01:08:24.523
There is a deaf school up there, like at 10th and Rule, and there was a sign like a deaf school.

01:08:24.523 --> 01:08:25.282
There was like signs up through there there is a deaf school up there.

01:08:25.234 --> 01:08:36.391
Yes, yeah, you know I feel bad for them because and I don't mean to feel bad for somebody because of their disability or anything but sometimes I get so wound up and pissed I can't even hardly talk.

01:08:36.391 --> 01:08:40.230
I could only imagine trying to express myself with sign language.

01:08:40.230 --> 01:08:45.289
I mean like I would be like frustrated, like I don't know if my hands would even work.

01:08:45.289 --> 01:08:51.498
You know, I used to get so worked up, it's horrible.

01:08:51.498 --> 01:08:54.310
But she stated that she is Zara's aunt and that she would babysit Zara while her dad worked.

01:08:54.310 --> 01:09:00.969
She advised that she would watch Zara mostly on the weekends and she watched her this past weekend.

01:09:00.969 --> 01:09:06.391
She advised that Zara was at her house on Friday until Sunday morning around 10 to 11 am.

01:09:06.391 --> 01:09:10.650
She advised that she has all kinds of videos and pictures of Zara.

01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:17.512
She showed a video of Zara on the slide that was dated Saturday, the 17th at 4.59 pm.

01:09:17.512 --> 01:09:20.548
There were no visible injuries on that video.

01:09:20.548 --> 01:09:25.661
Injuries on that video.

01:09:25.661 --> 01:09:29.612
She advised Zara had no injuries on her body this weekend when she was with her and she did not get injuries in any way when they were at the park.

01:09:29.612 --> 01:09:33.626
She advised that she had no incidents at her house with Zara.

01:09:33.626 --> 01:09:36.072
She advised she was happy and had a lot of fun.

01:09:36.072 --> 01:09:40.188
She had to tell Zara to sit down to eat, but that was about it.

01:09:40.188 --> 01:09:42.172
There was no physical discipline.

01:09:42.172 --> 01:09:45.649
She disciplines by having her sit down and talk about it.

01:09:46.020 --> 01:09:47.604
That kind of makes my heart feel better.

01:09:47.604 --> 01:09:49.689
You know that she had somewhere to go.

01:09:50.069 --> 01:09:51.252
Absolutely, me too.

01:09:51.659 --> 01:10:07.515
I mean, she had somewhere to go other than Zach's, because Zach had been keeping Zara from her mother and she hadn't seen her in nine months before she died.

01:10:07.515 --> 01:10:13.725
I couldn't imagine that she had fought so hard for her.

01:10:13.725 --> 01:10:20.742
And now he's keeping her for nine months, and you know what just is so horrible about this?

01:10:20.742 --> 01:10:22.023
This is so horrible about this.

01:10:22.023 --> 01:10:32.150
On May 15th actually it was three days before Zara's murder the paternity case for Zara, the custody stuff, the case had closed.

01:10:32.150 --> 01:10:42.742
Wow, Three days before this happened and all Zara's mother got was you're crazy, Quit calling the police, Quit calling DCS.

01:10:42.742 --> 01:10:49.310
This is what a judge in Marion County told this mother, when she's doing everything she can to fight for her daughter.

01:10:49.310 --> 01:10:52.145
I mean, why were they given more?

01:10:52.145 --> 01:10:57.849
I don't even know what it is the word I'm looking for Credit To.

01:10:57.868 --> 01:10:58.048
Zach.

01:10:59.960 --> 01:11:07.427
It's like he had manipulated them so perfectly, like he had done every time in all of his criminal cases.

01:11:07.427 --> 01:11:16.752
While he's fighting this same case, he's got 11, 12 charges rape, stalking, intimidation but he still got custody of this little girl.

01:11:16.752 --> 01:11:20.287
And he's doing all this shit Like where was the oversight?

01:11:20.859 --> 01:11:25.752
I wouldn't think this would have anything to do with him being a white dude and her being a black chick.

01:11:25.752 --> 01:11:28.105
Sure to God, not in this time of age.

01:11:28.105 --> 01:11:29.631
Up in Indianapolis it wouldn't have.

01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:31.987
I would hope not.

01:11:31.987 --> 01:11:33.926
I mean, but you never know.

01:11:33.945 --> 01:11:35.069
I mean you don't?

01:11:35.069 --> 01:11:35.903
He had them?

01:11:35.903 --> 01:11:37.708
Bullshitting and blind for real.

01:11:38.421 --> 01:11:46.625
And that would be a horrific, just injustice if that played a reason which I'm praying to God.

01:11:46.704 --> 01:11:48.126
It didn't Me too.

01:11:48.126 --> 01:11:52.082
Aunt said Zachary was angry Sunday morning when he picked up Zara.

01:11:52.082 --> 01:11:54.289
She asked why he was mad.

01:11:54.289 --> 01:12:02.207
She said Zara was not behaving good on Friday when Zachary dropped her off, but once she got into her house she was fine and well-behaving.

01:12:02.207 --> 01:12:06.449
She said she begs for Zachary to leave Zara at her house until Monday.

01:12:06.449 --> 01:12:12.529
But he refused because he wanted to pick the little baby up and use that to get Andrea back home, I believe.

01:12:14.320 --> 01:12:21.230
Yeah, because he could say oh, I'm going to put my hands on the baby or I'm going to use her as leverage to get what I want.

01:12:22.881 --> 01:12:26.650
She advised Zara always wanted to stay with her and begged to stay with her.

01:12:26.650 --> 01:12:30.470
She said Zara was scared and crying when she had to go home on Sunday.

01:12:30.470 --> 01:12:34.170
She is not sure why Zara was scared, she did not tell her.

01:12:34.170 --> 01:12:42.451
She advised Zara had been scared to go home before she was asked if Zara had ever expressed any concerns to her.

01:12:42.451 --> 01:12:45.569
She advised Zara never said anything serious.

01:12:45.569 --> 01:12:48.328
She would just say grab, but nothing serious.

01:12:48.328 --> 01:12:52.730
She said one time before Zara told her Zachary grabbed her.

01:12:52.730 --> 01:12:54.766
This was about one month ago.

01:12:54.766 --> 01:12:57.868
She said Zara just said it and went right back to playing.

01:12:57.868 --> 01:13:00.686
She did have a happy place at this Aunt Bea's house.

01:13:00.686 --> 01:13:02.310
It seems like Thank God.

01:13:03.122 --> 01:13:07.989
Yeah, that warms my heart, but God, this case just pisses me off so bad.

01:13:09.061 --> 01:13:10.287
We always picked our kids up.

01:13:10.287 --> 01:13:14.247
They was always happy as hell to see us, this little baby's, begging not to go.

01:13:14.247 --> 01:13:15.625
Please don't make me go home.

01:13:15.625 --> 01:13:16.228
You know what I mean.

01:13:16.228 --> 01:13:18.287
That's just that hurts my heart.

01:13:18.287 --> 01:13:24.192
She advised that Zachary was the primary person who would pick up and drop off Zara.

01:13:24.192 --> 01:13:26.487
She did not care for Andrea.

01:13:26.487 --> 01:13:31.511
She advised that Andrea would cause a lot of issues in the home and was not good for Zachary.

01:13:31.511 --> 01:13:37.132
She is unaware of anything that has occurred in Zachary's home as she has never went to his house.

01:13:37.132 --> 01:13:39.426
Zara would always come to her house.

01:13:39.426 --> 01:13:43.908
She is very sorry for Zara and wished she could have saved her.

01:13:44.069 --> 01:13:44.891
I bet she did.

01:13:44.891 --> 01:13:47.382
I bet she does too.

01:13:47.382 --> 01:13:52.706
I bet her heart hurts bad and she misses that little girl and she thinks you know, why didn't I see this shit?

01:13:52.706 --> 01:13:54.204
Or why didn't I see that shit?

01:13:54.707 --> 01:14:01.282
But there had to be signs somewhere, and I'm not saying nothing bad about.

01:14:01.301 --> 01:14:01.442
Aunt B.

01:14:01.442 --> 01:14:03.119
Well, she was five years old and what Weighed?

01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:04.140
39 pounds.

01:14:04.161 --> 01:14:05.302
Well, she was five years old and what weighed?

01:14:05.302 --> 01:14:05.904
39 pounds.

01:14:05.904 --> 01:14:08.546
Yeah, she was 47 inches tall and weighed 39 pounds.

01:14:08.546 --> 01:14:10.149
That's like skinny as a rail.

01:14:10.208 --> 01:14:13.132
That's a sign, but some people don't know that.

01:14:13.233 --> 01:14:15.255
Right, maybe they was keeping it hid, good.

01:14:16.494 --> 01:14:16.654
Now.

01:14:16.654 --> 01:14:19.775
During this time, detectives were still on scene at the residence.

01:14:19.775 --> 01:14:25.819
Detective Harris relayed the coroner's initial exam of Zara, while on scene to Detective Davis.

01:14:25.819 --> 01:14:42.023
Detective Harris stated that Deputy Coroner expressed concern about the following injuries there was pattern bruising on the right left arm, the right left hip and the left right leg.

01:14:42.023 --> 01:14:44.533
Abrasions and ligature marks on Z.

01:14:44.533 --> 01:14:47.068
Abrasions and ligature marks on Zara's neck and chin.

01:14:47.068 --> 01:14:51.649
Contusions on her left arm with an outward V-shaped injury.

01:14:51.649 --> 01:15:01.641
Forgive me if I butcher this, but conjunctival pettia in the left and right eyes.

01:15:02.064 --> 01:15:05.146
That means the blood vessels were fucked up for being strangled.

01:15:05.146 --> 01:15:06.189
Yes, absolutely.

01:15:06.619 --> 01:15:11.631
Detective Harris also relayed the progression of processing the scene.

01:15:11.631 --> 01:15:17.511
He stated that CSU brinkmen took photographs and recorded video.

01:15:17.511 --> 01:15:27.055
Also, they collected and recovered the following items inside of the residence thus far, but the steam was still being processed.

01:15:27.300 --> 01:15:36.539
Basically, the stuff that they found and they noted in their investigation was a bunch of child's clothes on the floor and behind doors and stuff.

01:15:36.539 --> 01:15:47.802
One thing that caught my eye was there was a light-colored rope with a loop at the end of the rope, resembling a noose, at the top shelf of a red toolbox in the dining room.

01:15:47.802 --> 01:16:02.163
Also, the following digital items was recovered an AT&T Wi-Fi modem in the living room, then a funky name digital video recorder, which was probably the sign language interpreter apparatus.

01:16:02.163 --> 01:16:11.494
Yeah, A PlayStation 5, a VTech camera, a black gaming device and a black gaming drive and an iPad.

01:16:11.835 --> 01:16:12.735
You know what's weird?

01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.128
Sorry to interject here real quick, no go ahead.

01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:29.172
Is that when he's going through all of his criminal cases, he gets indigent status and doesn't have to pay his GPS monitoring shit.

01:16:29.701 --> 01:16:30.564
He gets his.

01:16:30.585 --> 01:16:33.840
GPS monitoring, shit taken away because he says he's indigent.

01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:45.003
But you got an iPad and you got a gaming device and you got a PlayStation 5 and you're rolling around in Escalade and you're indigent, you, a lying ass motherfucker.

01:16:45.806 --> 01:16:46.670
Radio edit.

01:16:46.670 --> 01:16:55.295
So the vehicle was ultimately towed to auto return for processing and completed by the following day, on May 20th 2025.

01:16:55.295 --> 01:17:07.890
Detective Heiser and Detective Cohen were present for the continued search and processing of the vehicle and noted blood was found on the driver's seat of the vehicle and in the seat directly behind the driver's seat.

01:17:09.091 --> 01:17:17.289
The autopsy of Zara was also conducted on May 20, 2025 by a medical pathologist doctor.

01:17:17.289 --> 01:17:29.255
Detectives Kinder and Heiser attended the autopsy and learned that at the time of the autopsy, zara weighed 39 pounds and was 47 inches tall at five years old.

01:17:29.255 --> 01:17:35.993
Dr Kavanaugh observed additional bruising on the feet, right hand and both hips.

01:17:35.993 --> 01:17:49.708
There were bald patches observed in the scalp, along with lacerations found inside both the upper and lower lips, meaning her lips were busted.

01:17:49.708 --> 01:17:56.113
Dr Kavanaugh said there was significant bruising on over 50% of the scalp.

01:17:56.113 --> 01:18:07.065
So if there's bruising on her scalp, he's either banging her head on the floor or he's punching her in the head and pulling her hair out bald spots on her scalp.

01:18:07.287 --> 01:18:12.082
Bruising was observed on both the right and left side of the scalp and on the back.

01:18:12.082 --> 01:18:15.252
All were consistent with impact injuries.

01:18:15.252 --> 01:18:21.106
Dr Kavanaugh said it would take three separate falls to cause bruising like that.

01:18:21.106 --> 01:18:25.815
Bilateral subdural hemorrhages were seen.

01:18:25.815 --> 01:18:29.203
No bruising was observed inside the neck.

01:18:29.905 --> 01:18:40.969
The coroner ultimately ruled Zara's primarily cause of death as blunt force trauma to her head, with the lethal injury being one of the three impact injuries.

01:18:40.969 --> 01:18:51.641
That means she was hitting her head so hard there was three injuries that could have been the death blow, without a better way of saying it.

01:18:51.882 --> 01:18:57.721
So not only was he strangling her, he this just hurts my heart.

01:18:57.761 --> 01:19:00.244
The blood vessels busted in her eye told that story.

01:19:00.244 --> 01:19:04.386
And this dude saying oh, she was still breathing.

01:19:05.681 --> 01:19:06.323
No, she wasn't.

01:19:06.645 --> 01:19:09.728
I don't know man, it's just heart-wrenching.

01:19:11.002 --> 01:19:15.533
It makes me cry because I just feel so bad for this poor little girl.

01:19:15.533 --> 01:19:25.931
And then I can't even imagine what her mother is thinking, you know, after she fought so hard, I mean, can you imagine the failure she feels?

01:19:25.931 --> 01:19:28.850
I bet she feels rage towards these courts.

01:19:28.850 --> 01:19:37.868
As a parent, I'm just I mean, I get it.

01:19:38.301 --> 01:19:43.569
I mean we've both been mad at our kids and wanted to maybe whoop their ass or something.

01:19:43.569 --> 01:19:46.904
But how could you take it that far?

01:19:46.904 --> 01:20:02.045
And I'm sorry man, this dude has had so many charges of violence, domestic in nature it's really hard for me to believe that there was never signs other than what the mother had reported.

01:20:02.045 --> 01:20:03.069
I mean, come on.

01:20:03.211 --> 01:20:05.000
And she had been reported him for years.

01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:15.690
And you know what's funny is, none of these criminal escapades started with him until right after Zare was born.

01:20:15.690 --> 01:20:17.627
It was like something happened with this.

01:20:17.627 --> 01:20:30.648
I mean, no shit was going on with this dude before this baby was born, because when she was three months old, that's when he started filing in paternity court to control the mom.

01:20:30.648 --> 01:20:34.489
And then he would be like, oh, I don't want to file this no more, let's stop this.

01:20:34.489 --> 01:20:37.391
And then he would go back and say, oh no, I want to refile this.

01:20:37.391 --> 01:20:39.694
It was all about control.

01:20:40.033 --> 01:20:43.136
Zara wasn't a baby or a person or a daughter.

01:20:43.136 --> 01:20:52.090
In his eyes, she was a pawn, she was a tool, she was something that he used to get what he wanted from the women in his life 100%.

01:20:52.090 --> 01:20:54.293
I've seen this shit a thousand times.

01:20:54.341 --> 01:20:55.460
You're 100% right.

01:20:55.460 --> 01:21:02.501
And the first woman that he wanted and she left she was like he's going to beat me to death, I can't do this no more.

01:21:02.501 --> 01:21:07.963
I'm not saying she said that, but this is just, in my opinion, what's going through her mind.

01:21:07.963 --> 01:21:09.484
I can't do this no more.

01:21:09.484 --> 01:21:10.845
And then she's like I'm getting out.

01:21:10.845 --> 01:21:13.186
And she got out and she got custody of her daughter.

01:21:13.186 --> 01:21:19.810
But then, you know, and then she kept her daughter from having to go over there and be abused.

01:21:19.810 --> 01:21:30.917
And the judge in Marion County Court 9, judge Amber Collins, I think it was it was like bitch, you need to quit calling CPS and the police on Zach.

01:21:30.917 --> 01:21:32.037
He's a good dad.

01:21:32.037 --> 01:21:40.126
You better stop, because that's basically what she did.

01:21:40.126 --> 01:21:42.253
What are you going to do when a judge tells you to quit calling CPS?

01:21:42.274 --> 01:21:43.117
and quit calling the police on this dude.

01:21:43.136 --> 01:21:43.939
Quit being paranoid.

01:21:44.659 --> 01:21:46.146
Well I'd have went out of state or something.

01:21:46.146 --> 01:21:51.710
I'd rather kept a kidnapping charge for my own kid and maybe take care of that shit down the road.

01:21:52.561 --> 01:21:57.051
I get that, but what about these people who are up in the city?

01:21:57.051 --> 01:22:05.649
I mean, she's deaf, so I felt like this judge just did her so dirty.

01:22:05.649 --> 01:22:06.291
I do too.

01:22:06.291 --> 01:22:17.855
Now, on May 20th 2025, sergeant Detective Flynn spoke with Zach's brother via phone.

01:22:17.855 --> 01:22:24.853
Now his brother stated that he lived out of state and he was on the phone with his brother the morning of May 19th.

01:22:24.853 --> 01:22:30.471
He said when Zachary called him, he told him Zara was dead.

01:22:30.471 --> 01:22:40.854
Now Zara's uncle said Zachary told him she had fallen down the stairs and when he woke up the next morning he found her cold at the bottom of the stairs.

01:22:40.854 --> 01:22:47.127
Zara's uncle said he tried to adopt Zara.

01:22:47.127 --> 01:22:50.344
He had talked to Zachary about this.

01:22:50.344 --> 01:23:01.207
Zara's uncle said he has heard about the issues with Zachary and his ex, and what started as a paternity case became a custody battle.

01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:08.204
So after they got dude locked up, the poor baby's probably getting ready for her funeral, if she hasn't already had it already.

01:23:08.204 --> 01:23:09.828
But check this shit out.

01:23:09.828 --> 01:23:18.655
It was May 21st and a state trooper had received a voicemail from a manager at a hotel.

01:23:18.655 --> 01:23:28.635
There was a person that was concerned after making a 911 call on May 18, 2025, after witnessing a male choking a child.

01:23:28.635 --> 01:23:40.055
Initially she stated that she observed a vehicle pull into the parking lot and she pulled it up on their camera system because she thought it was an ex-employee who had been stalking them.

01:23:40.055 --> 01:23:46.521
However, she quickly realized it was something else had been stalking them.

01:23:46.521 --> 01:23:48.166
However, she quickly realized it was something else.

01:23:48.185 --> 01:23:52.416
She observed a male assaulting a child and called 911 two times and was put on hold two times.

01:23:52.416 --> 01:24:01.463
Another employee called while she was on hold and got through, while the other lady started chasing the male assaulting the child.

01:24:01.463 --> 01:24:05.953
She said police never responded to the hotel on May 18th.

01:24:05.953 --> 01:24:12.460
Sergeant Rainey was able to get to the hotel on May 21st to obtain the video.

01:24:12.460 --> 01:24:19.014
He observed the video and saw that it contained a time stamp of May 18th at approximately 4 pm.

01:24:19.014 --> 01:24:24.005
He then confirmed that approximately 3 pm on May 18th.

01:24:24.005 --> 01:24:32.815
When he saw the video, he realized the suspect was Zachary and knew that he was just arrested for the murder of his five-year-old daughter, zara.

01:24:32.815 --> 01:24:37.011
Sergeant Rainey obtained the video and turned it over to Detective Heiser.

01:24:37.579 --> 01:24:44.412
Now, this was 19 hours before he called and they pronounced her dead.

01:24:44.412 --> 01:24:50.131
Exactly this is 19 hours before this little girl was pronounced dead.

01:24:50.500 --> 01:24:51.001
Yeah, and it says.

01:24:51.001 --> 01:24:55.412
The video shows a male who appears to be Zachary getting out of a black-ass glade.

01:24:55.412 --> 01:24:59.570
At one point he grabs the child, who appears to be Zara, from the vehicle.

01:24:59.570 --> 01:25:02.492
They observed him with his hands wrapped completely around her throat, holding her against the car in the air and shaking her.

01:25:02.492 --> 01:25:02.712
A vehicle.

01:25:02.712 --> 01:25:06.845
They observed him with his hands wrapped completely around her throat, holding her against the car in the air and shaking her.

01:25:06.845 --> 01:25:09.891
He can be seen throwing Zara into the car.

01:25:09.891 --> 01:25:12.466
Then he appears to be punching, kicking and hitting.

01:25:12.466 --> 01:25:19.627
So for all we know, this asshole killed this baby right here as soon as he picked her up from Aunt Bea's house.

01:25:19.627 --> 01:25:24.427
I mean, that's serious why didn't these police show up.

01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:26.006
They were called two times.

01:25:26.006 --> 01:25:38.273
Actually they were called three times Two times by this one person and then another time by this other person, and they were put on hold while a little girl's, a five-year-old baby is getting assaulted.

01:25:38.273 --> 01:25:40.768
They never showed the fuck up.

01:25:41.161 --> 01:25:42.265
And these hotel people.

01:25:42.265 --> 01:25:43.869
They have it on video.

01:25:43.869 --> 01:25:49.489
You know the police didn't call and they said well, the dude's gone, don't worry about it bullshit.

01:25:49.489 --> 01:25:53.430
This one girl was chasing this motherfucker down the road trying to stop him.

01:25:53.430 --> 01:25:56.545
Why didn't they ever show up?

01:25:56.545 --> 01:25:59.171
I'm shocked.

01:25:59.701 --> 01:26:00.103
I don't know.

01:26:00.103 --> 01:26:16.777
But you know what Kudos to them for reaching out to the Indiana State Police, because whenever they called Marion County 911 three times, nobody showed up for this little girl getting beat in the parking lot of the country inn and suites.

01:26:26.180 --> 01:26:28.851
I have a hard time saying well, we don't know the full circumstances, this kid was failed by the system or the system did this.

01:26:28.851 --> 01:26:29.354
The system did that?

01:26:29.354 --> 01:26:30.820
Because I understand the system is fucked up.

01:26:30.820 --> 01:26:36.560
It's especially been fucked up since COVID, when all the shit was video and everything was weird.

01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:43.868
I get that, but this little girl was failed in so many different ways that it's not even funny, it's sickening.

01:26:44.649 --> 01:26:45.408
She was failed.

01:26:45.408 --> 01:26:47.591
She was failed by her father.

01:26:47.591 --> 01:26:52.577
She was failed by the system.

01:26:52.577 --> 01:26:55.841
She was failed by DCS.

01:26:55.841 --> 01:27:02.534
She was failed by the Marion County Court judges who ordered her in the custody of her father.

01:27:02.534 --> 01:27:10.189
I hope you sleep real good every night thinking about the name Zara Arnold and where you put her.

01:27:11.462 --> 01:27:23.412
I'll tell you a shout out to the chicks at the hotel, because the video also shows that another vehicle pulls up.

01:27:23.412 --> 01:27:34.159
Later learned to be this witness Zachary pulls off and the other vehicle follows this, so this chick jumped in her ride and was trying to chase this motherfucker down.

01:27:34.260 --> 01:27:36.127
Look, that gave me cold chills.

01:27:36.127 --> 01:27:36.929
Good for her.

01:27:37.502 --> 01:27:38.104
Shout out girl.

01:27:38.220 --> 01:27:40.228
You did everything you possibly could.

01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:41.766
Now, here's a trigger warning folks.

01:27:41.766 --> 01:27:47.289
I know we do it at the beginning, I know this is a long episode, but this is in memory and you know stuff was there.

01:27:47.289 --> 01:27:49.413
But this is some really fucked up shit.

01:27:49.413 --> 01:27:53.469
The preliminary digital forensic unit results.

01:27:53.469 --> 01:27:59.610
Detective Davis and Kendra submitted both Andrea and Zachary's phones to the IMPD digital forensics unit for examination.

01:27:59.610 --> 01:28:02.930
Detective Scheringer was assigned.

01:28:02.930 --> 01:28:09.627
The detective reported very preliminary results to detective Davis on May 20th 2025.

01:28:09.627 --> 01:28:16.990
A forensic examination of Andrea's phone confirms Zachary sent a text to Andrea saying he was going to kill Zara.

01:28:16.990 --> 01:28:23.587
It also confirmed Andrea's timeline of FaceTime calls and Facebook messenger calls and text.

01:28:24.609 --> 01:28:35.902
On May 21st, digital Forensic Unit contacted Sergeant Flynn with additional findings from the forensic examination of Andrea's cellular device.

01:28:35.902 --> 01:28:45.555
Multiple videos were found, some as early as April 10th 2025, some as early as April 10th 2025, depicting Zachary strangling Zara.

01:28:45.555 --> 01:28:55.000
There are multiple videos from May 18th, beginning at the approximately 6 pm, that also depict Zachary strangling Zara.

01:28:55.000 --> 01:29:05.712
This includes a video that appears to be a FaceTime recording where Zachary has a noose around Zara's neck and is swinging her body around.

01:29:05.712 --> 01:29:12.740
These videos also depict Zachary throwing Zara over his shoulder and letting her body hang behind his back.

01:29:12.740 --> 01:29:19.333
While the noose is around her neck, zara appears to still be alive in all of these videos.

01:29:20.201 --> 01:29:31.185
That just shocked the fuck out of me my gosh I'm sorry folks if but holy shit, we're just telling the whole story here I am.

01:29:31.185 --> 01:29:33.029
I am in shock over this.

01:29:33.029 --> 01:29:37.081
How could you put a noose around a five-year-old baby's?

01:29:37.180 --> 01:29:40.646
neck and swing her and throw her over your back.

01:29:40.646 --> 01:29:42.590
You, you, a sick, demented motherfucker.

01:29:42.590 --> 01:29:46.506
I'm sorry, and so is this Andrea bitch for even putting up with this shit.

01:29:46.780 --> 01:29:50.828
Some of these videos are in April, so this is a month.

01:29:50.828 --> 01:29:52.685
This is a month.

01:29:54.444 --> 01:29:55.702
A month and a week, yeah.

01:29:56.163 --> 01:30:02.927
Before Five weeks, so you can tell me there wasn't no marks on this little girl's neck from where he threw a noose around her neck.

01:30:02.927 --> 01:30:04.980
This isn't just hearsay, folks.

01:30:04.980 --> 01:30:09.733
This is a fucking real video of him swinging her body around by a noose on her neck.

01:30:09.733 --> 01:30:17.157
Come on now, unless he hid her I mean hid, hid her well she was going.

01:30:17.216 --> 01:30:19.161
She was at the day before she died.

01:30:19.161 --> 01:30:20.884
She was at the babysitter's house.

01:30:21.024 --> 01:30:21.746
I know man.

01:30:22.127 --> 01:30:26.354
Or did he hide her out while the bruises were still there and she didn't go there?

01:30:27.161 --> 01:30:30.411
I mean, it could have been cold and he put a hoodie on her, but I don't know.

01:30:30.411 --> 01:30:33.530
I'm in shock, I am too.

01:30:33.530 --> 01:30:34.615
I am too.

01:30:34.615 --> 01:30:35.600
I have to say that just fucked me up.

01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:37.627
This system failed her every step.

01:30:37.627 --> 01:30:40.783
It failed her mom, it failed Zara.

01:30:40.783 --> 01:30:48.703
Marion County Court judges should be ashamed of their self.

01:30:48.703 --> 01:30:58.152
And I'm telling you what I have no faith, no faith whatsoever in the family court system in Marion County, because this is not the first case that we have done that.

01:30:58.152 --> 01:31:03.912
The Marion County family court system has failed parents drastically.

01:31:04.434 --> 01:31:07.523
I'm sure there's some good dcs officers up in mary county.

01:31:07.582 --> 01:31:12.934
Just some of the shit we're seeing is disgusting, but where's dcs in that?

01:31:12.934 --> 01:31:14.382
Oh I forgot.

01:31:14.382 --> 01:31:23.125
Judge amber collins told zara's mother to stop fucking calling dcs and to stop reporting zach to the police.

01:31:23.125 --> 01:31:23.947
She's just.

01:31:23.947 --> 01:31:25.451
I think she should be charged too.

01:31:25.451 --> 01:31:34.533
I'm sorry, but come on, we need to start holding people accountable for these babies that are dying 100%.

01:31:34.981 --> 01:31:36.567
This has been a very long episode.

01:31:36.567 --> 01:31:41.002
Folks, we sure appreciate you sticking around and listening to the Zara story and rest in peace.

01:31:41.002 --> 01:31:57.865
Zara man, you're just a little angel flying up there and I hope you appreciate us trying to bring awareness and maybe us talking can save another child If you see something fucking say something, man hey, we love you here at 69 South.

01:31:58.127 --> 01:32:01.628
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01:32:04.630 --> 01:32:10.472
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01:32:10.472 --> 01:32:14.090
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01:32:14.090 --> 01:32:16.449
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01:32:16.449 --> 01:32:19.939
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