Dec. 29, 2024
From Praise to Peril: The Stafford Family's Unraveling
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08:49 - The Stafford Family's Troubling Past
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New details tonight on the Morgan County couple facing human trafficking charges Following a seven-month investigation.
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Brian and Sonia Stafford face 121 combined charges for crimes involving at least 11 victims, spanning more than a decade.
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They were the subject of a feature story in a local newspaper eight years ago covering their adoption of 11 kids, mostly from the state of Florida.
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At the time, the kids ranged from 5 to 17 years old.
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The story celebrated the empty nester's decision to adopt.
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Sonia Stafford is accused of strangling victims and keeping them from talking to police in 2020.
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Prosecutors claim Brian Stafford molested at least four minders under his care.
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Their next court date is set for March.
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Welcome everybody to this episode of 69 South March.
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Welcome everybody to this episode of 69 South.
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We're bringing you a breaking story that just has unfolded in Morgan County, indiana, just within the past three to four days.
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With me today is my always beautiful co-host, julie.
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How are you doing today, julie?
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I'm good.
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How are you?
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I'm doing?
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wonderful.
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Before we get started on this case, I want to say that this case is just now entering the litigation stage and all participants are innocent until proven guilty.
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Now, as you heard on that news clip, there was a newspaper article that were praising this couple for their adoption practices and we dug deep to find this news clip and we have that news clip right here for you and Julie's going to read it for you.
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So in January of 2016, the Reporter Times in Martinsville, indiana, wrote this article called Emptiness by Adopting Children, basically talking about Brian and Sonia Stafford adopting all these children, and it goes like this After their two biological children left the house to begin their adult lives, martinsville residents, sonia and Brian Stafford, were left with a big house, plenty of farmland and no one to fill it, and instead of enjoying peace and quiet and believing her job was done after raising her two children, sonia Stafford was seeking something more 11 more to be exact.
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In the past five years, stafford has adopted 11 children, mostly from Florida.
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They range in age from 5 years old to 17 years old, and she homeschools all of them.
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Now it feels like she's meeting the purpose she was meant to fulfill.
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For a while I was wondering what my purpose was for in this world.
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I didn't feel I had met it.
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Stafford said.
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I have a heart to give and a lot to do.
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I felt like I had so much.
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I wanted to put it somewhere.
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The Staffords live on a 23-acre farm off of Herbemont Road, so they had plenty of room to welcome in more children.
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It was five years ago when the Staffords, with Sonia leading the way, started looking into adoption.
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We thought about foster care, but we had no inclination at all, stafford said.
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But as they were getting ready for their youngest daughter's wedding, a call came in.
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Four children were available to be adopted from Florida.
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It was three weeks until the wedding day and the family was very, very busy, but they made the trip and adopted the first four of their 11.
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We thought, gosh, we need to do something.
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We need to adopt those kids, Stafford said.
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We didn't want to miss the chance.
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Six months later, four more came from Florida.
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The Staffords could have adopted six, but two of the second set chose not to come and stayed in Florida.
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It's the most grand thing in the world, Stafford said, to make life better for someone else.
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We're glad we have that possibility.
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The final three have not been with the family long, having been adopted.
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December 6th the eight children joined their parents on the trip to get their siblings and the family was set.
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Stafford said this is probably it and the family probably won't likely add any more, but she didn't rule out the possibility.
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You never know.
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She said we may add more.
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I'm just not looking anymore.
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Managing the household.
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Stafford said she thrives on energy and activity and has boundless amounts A 51-year-old whirlwind she can't sit.
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Still.
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That's good news.
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When taking care of 11 children, they're all needy.
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When it comes to me, stafford said.
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Sometimes it makes for fierce competition.
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That's why Stafford needed a few rules and systems in place to manage so many children, because, while she thrives on energy, she hates chaos.
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Each child has their own color cup-coated cubby as well as their own water bottles marked with a marker.
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Each child washes their own cup when they are done and puts it away.
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I quickly found each child needed their own.
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Stafford said of the bottles.
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I wasn't going to have any fights over that.
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In school the children take turns sharing the laptops for school.
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Some work can be done without a computer so there is time limit on the laptops.
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There is a point system in which a child gets points when they misbehave.
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The points are kept on a chart so Stafford and the children can remember where each child is and if anyone is being punished.
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As far as expenses, the Staffords are frugal.
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They grow their own food when they can, getting chickens and cows from their farm, fish from their pond and even grinding and making their own bread from time to time.
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And everyone drinks water.
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We make sure nobody is wasteful in food.
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Stafford said Almost all of the children's clothing is hand-me-downs.
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They've gotten a lot of items donated from their church and other families.
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All of our games are donated, or games we had before.
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Stafford said People are so generous they give us things they don't want anymore and a lot of it is still good.
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All of the children also have a 4-H animal for which they care for.
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Stafford said that's been great at teaching them life responsibilities.
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In fact, when she asked them what they want for Christmas, the answer is another animal.
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They don't want anything else, which I guess is a good thing, but we can't always get sisters.
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Stafford said Stafford said.
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ultimately, it's about raising 11 children to become adults and productive members of society.
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If they can do that, they've done their job.
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It's about the growth of the kids.
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Stafford said I love to see the enthusiasm they have for everything.
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That's what keeps me going and that wrapped up the newspaper article that we dug out for you guys.
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Now it sounds like a pretty super good life that these kids were having.
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What do you think?
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I mean it sounds like that, but hindsight's 20-20.
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And to know what you know now and go back and read that article, some of the stuff that she was saying she really meant.
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But kind of in an evil way she really meant but kind of in a evil way.
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I mean, a lot of these kids probably came from bad situations or maybe they lost their parents or you know, who knows what gets you into the adoption system.
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What I thought was weird is how you could just put feelers out there and adopt a bunch of kids from a different state out there and adopt a bunch of kids from a different state.
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Yeah, we have a source who told us that how they found these kids is they went online and searched kids for adoption and groups of kids would pop up from different states and they chose these children from Florida to go down there and adopt and bring back to Indiana.
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There's a lot going to unfold in this case people.
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We are going to be with it step by step.
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What we do know at this point in the investigation is the article referred to him as empty nesters.
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That's because they had already raised three kids of their own three kids of their own.
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It was reported also from a confidential source that we will have and talk about later that they had one child that had committed suicide, and the source said that the child was 17 years old and committed suicide in 2004.
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Because he couldn't go to his girlfriend's house and out of respect for their other children, we're going to not name them because they weren't there.
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They were already gone.
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They probably didn't know all this stuff was happening.
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So, out of respect for them, we're not going to mention who they are, but their son that did commit suicide.
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His name was Cody Stafford and he was 17 years old and he took his life in 2004.
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We are further going to investigate that suicide and we're going to come up with some more facts on that for you.
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But that is what we have at this point on that.
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Here at 69 South we were able to get a firsthand account of what it was like to live on the Stafford farm in these said years.
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When I first learned of this story and post about it and decided to do it, the response was crazy.
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I had numerous people reach out to me wanting to tell their stories, wanting to talk, and it kind of blew me away and I knew that this story was going to be a big one and what these children went through was disgusting and we're going to cover every bit of it.
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At this point.
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We do know that that family farm has been sold, and we also know that Sonia and Brian are now divorced as of.
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November 1st of 2024, divorced as of November 1st of 2024.
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And they also moved away.
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They do not live out on the farm anymore.
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Sonia moved to Plainfield and Brian lives in Newcastle, I believe now.
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Well, Sonia lives in the.
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Morgan County Jail at the moment.
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Oh yeah, because she's still in jail, but Brian Stafford has made bond.
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Also, our investigation has led us to some other interesting facts.
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Now keep in mind that Brian and Sonia Stafford would be really close, or in their early 60s, by this time.
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Yeah, I'm not sure how much older Brian Stafford was than Sonia, but we know that in 2016, sonia was 51.
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So that makes her what?
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59 now, so around 60 years old of some age.
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That's what the age range we are saying is.
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Keep in mind that that news article that we read to you was written nine years ago and at the time of said article one of the victims in this case was age 10 years old.
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Now we looked at the newspaper clippings of this article and it showed a big family photo and the girl the victim that was 10 years old is now his baby mama.
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They reportedly had a child together and the child was just born and we're not going to mention the victim's name because she's a victim, out of respect for her, but they a child now, yeah, and we don't know.
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We do know that they have the same last name because he adopted her, and we have reason to believe that they're living as a married couple yeah, a married couple, husband and wife.
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And this victim now I believe she's 18, 19 years old and married, or pretending to be married, I'm not sure 100 percent to a 60, 65 year old man that was supposed to be her father and raised her.
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We do want to point out that, looking at Sonia's charges, there was no actual sex charges.
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Child molestation charges, but there is promotion of human trafficking.
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And what that charge by Indiana statute means a person who by force, threat or force or fraud knowingly or intentionally recruits, harbors or transports another person to one.
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Engage another person, person in A forced labor, b involuntary servitude or to force another person into A marriage, b prostitution or.
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C participating in sexual contact or commits promotional of human trafficking.
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A.
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Level four felony.
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A person who knowingly, intentionally recruits, arbors or transport a child less than 18.
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And what's what that means for her charges, I wonder, as if she was either because she initiated the adoptions that got all the children to their place of residence and forced them to do all of this work.
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I believe human trafficking is not just sexual, but it's also forced labor and other things of that nature.
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But there's a slew of each of these charges and if you want to finish them, up.
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She's also charged with strangulation.
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I think we all know what that means.
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She's also been charged of multiple counts of domestic battery on a child less than 14 years old, and domestic battery is basically if you batter somebody that lives in the same household as you.
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She's also been charged of neglect of a dependent domestic battery over 14, intimidation with a deadly weapon, battery resulting in bodily injury and, like Julie said, there is a slew of each one of these charges.
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She also got obstruction of justice because she was trying to prevent some of the children from coming forward and telling what really happened.
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Now to get in some of Brian's charges.
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We have child molesting and the victim, it says, and the charges read at least 21 years of age.
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Now I'm not too sure how that works, because you wouldn't think you could be molesting.
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I'm not sure if that means that the victim is now over 21.
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I don't think it would mean that.
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Maybe it means that it's some sort of incestual deal, like he was molesting one of his adopted kids, because when you adopt a kid, they're your child, 100%.
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We have child molesting under 14 years of age.
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There is multiple charges on that, so it was multiple times, multiple occasions he's being accused of.
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Multiple girls.
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Performance of child molestation before minor that means he was doing it in front of other children Neglect of a dependent and, as Sonia was charged with, he was also charged with promotion of human trafficking Folks.
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He was charged with over 50 crimes.
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Felonies.
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These are all the main gist of the crimes.
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There's just so many multiples of these charges.
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Dating back all the way from 2011 to currently, I believe.
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Now, like we told you earlier on 69 South, we got an inside look, an exclusive interview from one of the children who were adopted by the Staffords and we're going to give him an interview, an exclusive interview You're only going to hear on 69 South.
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I have had a chance to personally talk to this young man and, to be honest with you, he seems like a level-headed, really cool young man.
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We're going to ask him the questions that our listeners would want to hear the answers to.
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Let's get to it.
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So, buddy, what age were you when the Staffords adopted you and your siblings?
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Six years old.
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Six years old, 2006.
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How many siblings did they adopt with you?
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Five, five, five.
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Now you said that not all the siblings stayed, or did five of you stay?
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There was actually six of us all together, but two of them left because they were the age of 17 and 18.
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So there was four that stayed.
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Yes, sir.
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Okay, give us a quick rundown of what life was like on the Stafford farm as an adopted child.
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Basically, there were definitely restrictions that were required by the Stafford farm, which were working If you don't work, you don't eat.
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Those rules didn't, you know, always suit our benefits because we always needed to eat and provide what they needed.
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But definitely we needed to eat because they didn't provide food and water and what they needed us, you know, to need.
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That sounds pretty crappy.
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So how was Sonia and Brian's attitude towards you guys Like, towards the general attitude towards the children?
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Did he have certain children that they favored and worked harder, or what was their general attitude?
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General attitude was they did favor.
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Some of the people including one of the you know kid that he got pregnant and was one of my own brother and sister's family member that she did favor because she liked her, because supposedly she did the right thing even though she didn't, but supposedly she favored her because she acted like her.
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Now they said that they homeschooled you guys.
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How was the homeschooling like?
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Were they really spending you know, a big part of the time of your day teaching you guys what they should have been about schooling, or was that just kind of some BS?
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From 8.30 to 4 o'clock in the afternoon she homeschooled us.
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It did take us quite a long time, after the four o'clock restriction that she gave us, to finish the work.
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It is a curriculum that one grade ahead of what grade that you usually do, so it definitely did take us definitely longer than four hours to finish the project, so you were getting an education.
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Yeah, we were getting education, but it was extremely hard.
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You mentioned before that they had punishments like if you didn't get your work done or maybe you didn't perform like they wanted you to as far as working on the farm goes.
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Can you explain some of those punishments to us and how they were carried out?
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If you weren't done with school during this specific time, you had to stay up until you had your school caught up, so meaning you didn't eat until you were caught up at school that certain time.
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If you still weren't caught up in that certain time and she was ready to go to bed, you had to strip everything you had besides your underwear and sleep on the hard, cold wooden floor till you were caught up.
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So that was a punishment for not getting your schoolwork done and what about punishments for not getting your farmwork done?
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If your farmwork wasn't done, she made you do an extra hour of work until you were done with that certain time of the work.
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So even if you were four hours done with that project, you were added on with that much.
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Sentences and sentences is considered a bible verse.
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Your age that you had to do and if you were 18 years old you had to do 18 bible verse words to set in the bible and you had to do that two times.
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So it would be like if you're 1,000 times like 1,000 minutes late, you had to do 2,000.
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Now, was there an age that you started noticing the abuse that's alleged through the criminal charges that they have been charged with, like.
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Give me a rundown of that, like how old were you when you noticed it?
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What did you notice?
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Or what, what could you tell was going on?
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um.
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So if I came there during I was six years old, it took about two years for me to understand what was going on, but I was about eight years old until I realized what was really going on.
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I I realized that definitely, she was a person that did not let anything slip by her.
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She made everything that you did wrong into a consequence.
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Sounds like she kept a pretty tight ship and knew everything that was going on there at the farm.
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Yes, yes, sir, as you're aware of, uh, brian stafford was charged with several molestation of some of the girls there, allegedly on the farm.
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How possible do you think it was that she had no knowledge of the sexual abuse that was going on there?
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he always worked in the workshop, which was a wood, metal, you know workshop that you built stuff and um made animal stuff or um, she was mainly in the kitchen.
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Um, she was aware of that because she was always in the workshop building stuff.
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You know that's where the stuff was going on.
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That is in the workshop man yeah, yeah, that's exactly where it worked on, because one of my younger sisters said, you know, he just showed me, uh, my, his area when he was in the workshop and when she went past that room he already had been covered it up.
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And so that's what I caused you know, that's what know caused me suspicion because of what was going on, um of him doing that, and so finally I mentioned it to the whole family.
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He actually said, yeah, that's what I did, that's what I did wrong.
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You know, I kept a secret.
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You know that's what kept family from you know, being told what was actually going on.
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You mean family outside of the family.
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Yeah, yes, sir.
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Okay, this is kind of a tough question for you, buddy.
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Did you ever personally witness or hear from a family member any of the inappropriate actions that they're being charged with?
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Heard about it from my brothers and sisters.
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They said they would go up to the chicken house and he would, you know, pull out of his private area and show what was going on.
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And they were little kids during the time so they didn't know what part was what and what was going on.
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And he was definitely a man, so he knew what he was doing wrong, but they didn't know what he was doing.
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