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Since the last time, I'm Chop your host, and with me always is my beautiful baby co-host, julie.
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What's up?
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You make me blush every time you say that I love you, baby.
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Aw, thank you.
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Today we are visiting a truly disturbing case out of Martinsville, indiana, involving a recently retired firefighter and the dark corner of the internet.
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We have some significant updates on the charges he's facing and some of the early court proceedings, and we will also delve into the broader impact on the community and its dedicated public servants.
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So let's get into this probable cause affidavit.
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We're discussing Ryan Roy.
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I guess he goes by Roy too, but his name is Ryan Wade Layman, l-a-y-m-o-n, a name that's unfortunately become associated with some very serious charges child exploitation and possession of child pornography.
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This is a tough one to talk about, but it's vital that we do.
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The details come from a probable cause affidavit filed on June 12, 2025, by Detective Jonathan Moscato of the Bloomington Police Department.
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The affidavit outlined the investigation into Lehman's activities between April 11, 2025 and May 31, 2025.
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Lehman, a 53-year-old male who had just retired in January of 2025 from his career as a City of Martinsville firefighter, was initially booked on charges of child exploitation and possession of child pornography, but now, thanks to the recent case summary, we have a clearer picture of the full extent of the charges filed against him.
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And what makes this case even more shocking for the Martinsville community is that Ryan Lehman was a public servant.
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He seemed to be hiding in plain sight.
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For years he served as a city of Martinsville firefighter and from all appearances he had seemingly a spotless record, aside from perhaps a few minor speeding tickets.
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This makes the nature of his alleged crimes all more jarring to those who knew him and saw him as a respected member of the community.
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It is truly disturbing revelation.
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According to the case summary filed on June 12, 2025, Ryan Lehman faces a total of eight felony charges.
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One count of child exploitation classified as a level four felony.
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This charge includes one aggravating factor found in any and the code 35-42-4-4C1.
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Seven counts of possession of child pornography Five of these are level six felonies and two are level five felonies, each with an aggravating factor found in the same Indiana code.
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Now, for our listeners, let's break down what these felony levels mean in Indiana.
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A level six felony is the least severe felony, but still carries a potential sentence of six months to two and a half years in prison.
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A level five felony is more serious, with the potential sentence of one to six years, and a level four felony, which is the child exploitation charge layman faces.
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He could carry a sentence of two to 12 years in prison.
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And the aggravating factors mentioned for the level four child exploitation and the two level five possession of child pornography charges indicate that the specific circumstances of these crimes are considered more severe under Indiana law.
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Crimes are considered more severe under Indiana law Without knowing the exact subsections of the Indiana Code.
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These factors generally relate to the nature of the material, for instance if it depicts a child under a certain age or if the acts depicted are particularly violent or heinous.
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This means the potential for the penalties for those specific charges could be enhanced.
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So the dirtier the material, the higher the charges.
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Or the younger the victim, the higher the charges.
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Pretty much is what that means.
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Yeah, the nastier the videos, the worse the charges are.
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Man, you'd think all this shit going on in our county over here man motherfuckers that was looking at this shit would get rid of this shit or maybe stop.
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You know what I mean.
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They ain't going to stop.
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It's like dope for them.
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It is.
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They have to have it.
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They like fiend for it.
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It's insane man.
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Now this investigation began with Detective Moscato, who is affiliated with the Indiana Internet Crimes Against Children, or ICAC, task force.
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He was running an investigative software on the eDonkey file sharing network.
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Hold on now.
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What the fuck is eDonkey?
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Software for these networks, like Emule or Shareza, is often free and easily available online.
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When a device runs this software and is connected to the Internet, users can download from and share files with others on this same network.
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Is it me or do they just keep coming up with more new apps, freaking shit and apps to do this weird shit?
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I?
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can't even count the number of apps that we've read off in investigation in probable causes I mean you got whatsapp which snapchat single e donkey, e-donkey, e-mule, e-donkey what the fuck?
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Then there's the weird Facebook furry groups and all that stuff.
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Oh my God, yeah, oh, the furries, yeah, don't let me forget the furries.
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Right.
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So on April 11th 2025, detective Moscato was specifically looking for offenders sharing child pornography on the e-donkey network.
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His investigation led him to an IP address.
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This IP address was flagged because it was associated with files of interest in child pornography investigations in child pornography investigations.
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So this IP address had already been flagged for doing dirty shit.
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I just can't get over the e-donkey.
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It's called the e-donkey.
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That's fucked up.
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They are a bunch of jackasses Using specialized investigative software.
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A direct connection was made to this suspect device at the flagged IP address was made to this suspect device at the flagged IP address.
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The device was running eMule VO.50A client software.
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And here's where it gets really disturbing, julie.
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On that same day, april 11th, between 8.32 am and 8.34 am, a file titled IMG underscore 1649.3 GP was completely downloaded from this suspect device.
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And Detective Moscato personally viewed this file.
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He confirmed that it was child pornography, violating Indiana Code 35-42-4-4.
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The file was a video.
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It was six minutes and nine seconds long, appearing to be homemade and depicting a young female.
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The age was established to be four or five years old.
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The person filming appeared to be a late teenaged male.
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He filmed and fondled this child's private area, even sticking the whole entire camera down there, which is absolutely abhorrent.
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And that's just one of the files, and it's enough to make your stomach turn.
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The investigation continued.
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A query of the IP address 108.218 blah blah, blah, blah blah through the American Registry for the Internet Numbers, or ARIN, revealed it was registered to AT&T Enterprises LLC.
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A search through MaxMindcom further pinpointed the origin of this IP address to Martinsville, indiana, via AT&T Internet.
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And this wasn't an isolated incident.
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Indiana State Police Detective White had historical information about downloads from this same IP address, indicating a device at this address possessed IP 884 files believed to be child pornography.
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Additionally, ISP Detective Stewart had also received at least one download from this IP address on March 15th of 2025.
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Moscato to obtain a court order for the AT&T subscriber information for that IP address from March 14, 2025 through April 15, 2025.
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The response from AT&T confirmed that the IP address was subscribed to Ryan Lehman at an address in Martinsville, Indiana, from April 5th to April 16th 2025.
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The downloads didn't stop there.
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Even after the initial discovery, detective Moscato received six additional downloads via eMule from the same IP address on April 25th, april 28th and April 29th, two on May 1st and another on May 31st 2025.
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He personally viewed all of these and verified they also depicted child pornography.
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I would hate to have to be these detectives and have to go through these people's phone and see all that have to see the shit that they're downloading and sharing.
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Hell.
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No, I wouldn't take that job for no man.
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I can't even I can't even visualize it in my head, like when we're talking about it and you get a visual in your head like some of the shit that we have to read.
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They need to just like make um an ai thing where they can plug their phone in and it just searches and then it'll give them a report of what's on there, so nobody has to see any bad images.
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They need to make an AI thing that controls the whole Internet.
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When they see a little kid doing some nasty shit, that it just automatically fucking flags it, it takes it off.
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Yeah, it just automatically fucking flags it, it takes it off.
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Yeah, if they can shut down TikTok for the United States for a day, I'm sure they can come up with something of that nature.
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Disgusting and critically, these subsequent downloads were from the same client user hashed through eMule.
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This is a unique identifier for each individual user, indicating that the same account was logged into the network as when the previous downloads occurred.
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this wasn't some random person using layman's wi-fi one of those additional videos depicted a male appearing to be less than 12 years old, fully nude, exposing his private parts front and back to the camera and being fondled.
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Another video from May 31st 2025, showed what appeared to be a four or five-year-old female, fully nude, being held by an adult male, while an adult female performed oral sex on the child.
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That is absolutely sickening.
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It's sickening just to have to read this shit.
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I wonder if they could like in the videos you know how there's like the metadata in them if they could see where these videos like the longitude and latitude of these videos were taken.
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Go rescue these poor babies.
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Yeah.
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On June 9th 2025, a search warrant was granted to search the residence of Ryan Lehman in a Martinsville address.
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Two days later, on June 11th, investigators went to his home and made contact with him.
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During a post Miranda interview meaning they had already read him his Miranda rights.
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Ryan Layman fully admitted to using Emule to search for download, view and possess.
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God damn Yuck.
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He also admitted he knew that to use eMule, users have to share the downloads they have.
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Lehman claimed he would download the material, transfer it to a hard drive and then delete it from his laptop to avoid sharing.
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However, based on the historical information and the files his computer did share with investigators, it is clear that he was sharing child pornography files.
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So to be able to use this e-mule deal, you have to share everything that you have, yeah, and that's how they caught him.
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They like set up a sting and he sent some files to these investigators.
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Well, I guess the e-mule's setting their shit up to maybe to try and not get caught.
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Oh, you got to send me your nasty shit, then we'll send you our nasty shit, type deal.
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That's so gross.
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I mean, is that what I'm?
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Am I reading that right?
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Pretty much.
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Now here's another shocking revelation from the affidavit.
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Ryan Lehman advised he had been downloading child pornography his entire adult life, including throughout his career as a City of Martinsville firefighter including throughout his career as a city of Martinsville firefighter.
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He further stated that he has at least three hard drives in his home that each contain approximately 10,000 to 12,000 files depicting child pornography.
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Think about that number.
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So you're talking about 30,000 to 40,000 freaking child porn videos or pictures.
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Wow, he's doing more than sharing them.
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He's selling them.
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He's got to be monetizing that.
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You don't have that many.
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I mean you have that many if you're a sick child molester, yeah.
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Damn baby.
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You've been taking pictures on your iPhone as long as we've been together and you only got like 20,000 pictures on your shit.
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I mean, this motherfucker's got 40,000 child porn.
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On hard drives.
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I can't even make that make sense in my head, baby.
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He was ultimately booked into the Morgan County Jail on these severe charges for disseminating and possessing videos depicting child pornography, including children who appear to be less than 12 years of age.
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These events all occurred in Martinsville, Morgan County, Indiana.
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unfortunately, these events all occurred in Martinsville, morgan County, indiana, unfortunately.
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Now, diving into the recent court filings, we see a very interesting development.
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On June 12th 2025, the same day the case was filed on the probable cause and when the probable cause affidavit was entered the state of Indiana, the prosecution filed an objection to CR 26, which is a special bond condition.
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This is pretty standard in serious felony cases.
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Cr 26 likely refers to an Indiana criminal rule which outlines procedures for initial hearings and bond determinations.
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Initial hearings and bond determinations Special bond conditions are specific requirements a judge might impose in a defendant if a defendant is released on bond.
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Things like GPS monitoring, no contact with minors, restriction on internet access, shit like that.
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So when the state filed an objection, it means the prosecution.
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Or when the state filed an objection, it means the prosecution.
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Or when this state filed the objection, it means the defense disagreed or they wanted to challenge certain conditions, or perhaps even the concept of bond itself for laymen of the charges child exploitation and multiple counts of child pornography it's highly possible the state was pushing for a very strict bond conditions or even argued that he shouldn't be released on bond at all, seeing him as a potential danger or a flight risk.
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Yeah, I can see that Now.
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This objection was filed on June 12th and then on June 13th the court issued an order re special conditions.
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This indicates that, after considering the state's objection and likely hearing arguments from both sides, judge Terry Iacoli made a ruling on what specific conditions Ryan Lehman would be subject to if he were to be released on bond.
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This is a crucial step in ensuring public safety while the case proceeds.
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Now, considering Lehman's background as a firefighter a role that often embodies trust and community service that often embodies trust and community service his alleged actions must have sent shockwaves through his former department and among his former colleagues current friends and family Absolutely.
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We can only imagine the initial reaction from his fellow firefighters.
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They dedicate their lives to protecting the community running into danger when others run away.
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Their profession is built on courage, integrity and a deep commitment to public safety, especially for children and vulnerable individuals.
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This kind of betrayal of trust coming from one of their own would undoubtedly be met with a profound sense of shock, anger and deep disappointment.
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So it is important to stress that the actions of one individual, no matter how egregious, should never be allowed to tarnish the reputation of an entire profession Our police officers, firefighters, paramedic teachers and all of our first responders and public servants who are overwhelmingly dedicated, honorable people, men and women, who devote their lives to helping children and adults.
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Precisely these are people who run towards danger, who respond to emergencies, who educate our kids and who are there for us in our most vulnerable moments.
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The vast majority are appalled by crimes like these, and they work tirelessly to uphold the trust placed in them by the communities they serve.
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One bad apple does not and must not spoil the entire bunch.
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Their dedication, sacrifice and ethical conduct should continue to be recognized and respected and ethical conduct should continue to be recognized and respected.
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Now, Chop, we've also had some listeners wonder given that Ryan Lehman, along with other individuals like Chris Cooley and Nathan Bailey, have faced charges related to child pornography in the same county, Is it possible that these individuals from different walks of life could have been file sharing or connected in some way?
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That's a damn good question.
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I mean it's almost inevitable, you would think, unless this whole child porn file sharing shit is so much way bigger than we could even realize.
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I mean it just literally blows my mind.
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And people that listen to our podcast from outside the state or outside the country, man, please, please know that Morgan County, man, is a beautiful place to live and 99% of us are good people, especially the first responders.
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Exactly so you know, if multiple individuals in the same geographic area are involved in similar illegal activities using the same types of networks, connections can certainly exist.
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It's not out of the realm of possibilities.
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Absolutely not.
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Investigations into internet crimes against children often reveal complex webs of communication and sharing among individuals who might not know each other in real life but are connected through these online platforms.
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These networks can facilitate the exchange of illicit material, and law enforcement agencies like the ICAC Task Force actively work to map these connections to identify and apprehend all involved parties.
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Whether these particular individuals were directly sharing with each other is something that would be a part of an ongoing, broader investigation, but the possibilities certainly exist with the digital landscape of these networks.
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These cases highlight how extensive and interconnected these dark online communities can be.
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Now.
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This case is a stark reminder of the hidden dangers online and in real life.
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Let's talk about what our listeners can do to protect their children and families from child predators and pornographers.
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What types of apps or programs should parents be looking out for?
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That's a very crucial point, babe.
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First, it's important to understand how these networks work.
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P2p file sharing software like eMule, shereza, bittorrent or uTorrent are common avenues.
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While not inherently illegal, they can be used for illegal activities.
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Parents should monitor what software is installed on family devices.
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Many of these programs are free and easy to download, so they can be installed without much notice.
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So what are some practical steps?
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Parental control software is a big step.
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It's a very big step.
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Programs like Castillo, Net, Nanny or Bark allow parents to monitor online activity, filter content, track app usage and even receive alerts for suspicious keywords or images.
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Many internet service providers also offer parental controls at the router level, which can filter content across all devices connected to the home network.
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That's some cool shit, right there.
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I was going to say that you could just set your router, like, if you don't want to have YouTube in your house, you can set your router to block YouTube altogether from coming in your house.
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Right and I have seen some people, some ignorant ass people, make comments like well, they're not molesting kids, they're just watching shit on there and pleasing their self, masturbating and shit.
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But you've got to think about what the children are going through to make these videos.
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It don't matter If you're a grown man or woman, and that's something.
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You see, those kind of images, and that arouses you.
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You need some fucking help.
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You're fucking sick.
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Yeah, you need some help for sure.
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Puke Sussing On computers.
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Make sure your operating systems built in parental controls are activated.
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That's very important.
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For example, windows Family Safety or macOS Screen time allow you to set content restrictions, app limits and monitor usage.
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On mobile devices, both iOS and Android have robust parental control features within their settings, enabling content restrictions, app usage limits and even location tracking.
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Now, beyond software, something else that parents should be aware of on a regular basis is you know the open communication with your children about online safety is, first and foremost, paramount.
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Educate them about the dangers of sharing personal information, interacting with strangers and downloading unknown files.
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Emphasize that anything shared online can be permanent.
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Also, ensure your Wi-Fi network is secure with a strong password.
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This can prevent unauthorized access to your network.
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And finally, keep all software, including operating systems, antivirus programs and browsers, up to date.
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Updates often include security patches that protect against vulnerabilities.
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This case makes me wonder could layman's arrest lead to bigger arrests of people selling and trading these files online?