Nov. 16, 2025

How Neglect, Deceit, And A Failed Safety Net Ended Kinsleigh Weltys Life Part 2

A five-year-old’s world narrowed to a locked closet, bread for dinner, and hours facing a corner while adults traded excuses. We unpack the forensic interviews that finally put words to what was happening inside the home, then follow a trail of witness statements from family, coworkers, and school staff that reveal how the truth leaked out—tied to a bed “so adults could sleep,” a drowning story that doesn’t align, and a pattern of minimization that let a crisis become a catastrophe.

We talk through what the brothers shared with detectives, why their accounts align with dates and routines, and how one child’s hesitation turned to heartbreak when he learned his sister had died. From Ryan’s mother’s warnings months earlier to the grandmother’s contradictory admissions about duct tape and “protein,” the picture that emerges is both intimate and systemic. The details are tough; they should be. Abuse often hides behind euphemisms like “time-out,” and it survives when bystanders convince themselves a child is just “hyper” or “on a special diet.”

Then we step back and look at the system: repeated calls to DCS, expedited closures, and visits that reportedly failed to verify the one child in danger. Policy meant to streamline cases can turn into a blindfold when workers don’t lay eyes on the named child. We explore what accountability can mean now—across the courts, within the family, and throughout a community that’s rightfully furious—and what prevention must look like if we want a different outcome next time.

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00:26 - Intro, Warning, And Patreon

01:24 - Part Two: Case Framing

02:32 - Youngest Brother’s Account

03:58 - Middle Brother Confirms Confinement

06:11 - Older Brother’s Hesitation And Grief

07:59 - Trauma’s Lasting Imprint On Kids

08:36 - Ryan’s Mother Describes The Day

12:00 - Red Flags Before The Death

15:39 - School Lead: Grandmother Tied Her Down

19:12 - Contradictions And “Drowning” Story

21:09 - Great-Grandmother Condemns Tony

23:45 - Tammy’s Interview And Admissions

27:18 - Duct Tape, Closet, And Neglect

31:28 - Family Gatherings And Inaction

34:12 - Closet Was “Known” To Others

37:39 - Community Anger And Accountability

41:29 - Why Death Penalty Isn’t On Table

44:21 - Other Abuse Case Parallels

47:12 - DCS Calls, Safe Act, And Failures

52:14 - Trials Ahead And Final Reflections

54:57 - Closing And Support

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This is part two of the Kinsley Wealty story.

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And if you didn't check out part one, go back and check it out before you listen to this one.

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Today we're going to be diving into the chilling forensic interviews of Kinsley's three brothers, conducted by IMPD child abuse detectives Sergeant Nicole Flynn on April 10th, 2024.

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These statements paint a heartbreaking picture of alleged abuse inside the home.

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Here's what each brother revealed, summarized by your youngest to oldest.

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Okay, so her youngest brother said that Kinsley stayed at the house, and it made her sad whenever Tony McClure, her mother, would smack her on the butt during timeout.

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And he described that Kinsley would escape the cage, and mom and Ryan got mad.

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They would smack her and put her back in the cage.

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He also said that Kinsley pooped in the cage and had nothing to eat but bread while she was in trouble and she wasn't allowed to play.

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Now, this youngest brother is very young, so you know he couldn't say his age or focus very well, but he did draw on a family whiteboard, you know, like drawing pictures of your family members.

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Right.

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And he He was old enough to know that shit was wrong, I guarantee you that.

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Oh, yeah, and he even changed his mom's happy face that he drew to a sad face.

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So that was pretty much the information that they got from him.

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And then we move up to the middle brother, and he confirmed that Kinsley lived with them.

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He said when the kids got in trouble, they went to the corner, but Kinsley had a different corner, and she was also locked in the bedroom closet.

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Sometimes the boys slept in the bunk beds, but he said that Kinsley would sleep on the ground and that she would defecate in the closet, that food was kind of like a punishment.

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Everyone else got pizza.

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Kinsley got one sandwich a day, no drink, unless she asked the mom, who never gave her one.

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And this is coming from a child.

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He said that Kinsley would call him stupid words from inside the closet.

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He called her names back before leaving for timeout.

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He also said that Kinsley couldn't leave the closet because the door was locked, and that this started after Thanksgiving, but before Christmas of 2023.

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I wonder what her real beef was with like the female, the daughter.

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Like she seemingly, I mean, to her standards, she seemingly treated the boys.

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Yeah.

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I'm not even gonna say decent, but I mean But way better than she treated Kinsley.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Now, she also had an older brother, but he lived with the grandfather, but visited mom's house daily after school.

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He hesitated when he was asked questions about Kinsley, like, you know, he pretty much basically pretended he really didn't know what was going on.

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And the detective had talked to him and told him that Kinsley was very sick and at the hospital, he came very emotional and upset.

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So they ended that interview early.

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But whenever they came back and they told him that Kinsley had passed away and he started crying and was very, very upset and told the detective that he didn't really tell him all the truth of what was happening over there.

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So here we have three young voices, two consistent, horrifying accounts of isolation, starvation, and confinement.

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You have one voice that is silenced by fear and confusion.

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But anyway, these interviews are all part of the evidentiary record now.

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And we'll move on to what some other witnesses had to say about this.

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Well, you know, kids up there in the hood, they're basically programmed, I mean, to not talk to police officers.

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And not really say what's all going on in their home and that nature.

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You know, you grew up.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm sure I'm sure the mother was like, don't be telling nobody this shit, or you guys are gonna get took away and put in a bad place or whatever.

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I could only imagine what she was saying to them.

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I think we've seen on one episode this little girl was um describing their mother took her sister away and told all the other kids that not in this situation, but in another like true crime thing I was seeing.

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But the little girl had got on the stand and testified and said that her mom and her mom's girlfriend told her that they were taking her sister to the bad kids hospital and they had starved her too.

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It was Oh, I remember oh, I remember what case that was.

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Yeah, it was the two um like like gay chicks.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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To the to the bad kids' hospital.

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That's exactly what it was.

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I'm glad you said that because I was sitting here trying to remember what the heck I was thinking about.

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I can only imagine the effects watching this whole escapade play out in front of their eyes.

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I mean, you don't really realize it till you get a little bit older the way shit affects you when you're a little kid.

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I mean, you really don't realize it because then you, you know, as a your own person, you get a little bit older and then you look back and say, Man, that shit fucked me up a little bit, you know?

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I I've worked with kids that, you know, haven't been in the best situations and, you know, they're hungry a lot.

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And, you know, when they get older, you you know I would notice that they would just like scarf their food down so fast and they would choke a lot because when they were younger, they didn't have food provided for them like that.

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And it's it they're not even thinking about that.

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It's just from what happened when they were younger.

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Yeah, I could kind of relate to that a little bit.

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I mean, I remember there was times in my life where I was fed good, and there was times in my life where I didn't have shit as a kid.

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People that can remember way back when you get you go st stand in line and you may be able to get a brick of the government cheese and a thing of eggs, you know what I mean?

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That was it.

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So when you do get something to eat, especially if there's other kids around, you're gonna scarf that shit down before somebody takes your food, you know what I mean?

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That's exactly what it's from.

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It's it's weird.

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I mean, I've even seen kids like bite their own finger because they're in such a a hurry to get it in their mouth that they bite off their own foot.

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Not bite off their own finger, but it's bad.

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It is.

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So let's jump to April 10th, 2024.

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Detective Nicholson interviewed Ryan's mother, Ms, at the child abuse office.

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She stated the following during the interview.

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MS stated she had received a call to return to their business as soon as possible.

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She went to the business andor shop and met with Ryan and one of the younger boys.

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MS stated Ryan told her that Tony had just called him upset because Kinsley was unresponsive slash dead.

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MS stated Tony had actually called Ryan's cousin, CS, because Ryan did not initially answer his phone, but CS gave the phone to Ryan to speak with Tony.

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MS stated that she, Ryan, and one of the younger boys went to the house on Denver Drive.

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She stated at that point DCS had already been at the house, and it was believed that whatever happened to Kinsley happened after DCS had been at the house.

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She stated Ryan immediately went into the house and retrieved their newborn baby and took her to the car.

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MS stated she went inside and observed Tony just standing inside of her bedroom.

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MS stated Tony did not say anything.

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She just stood there with a blank stare.

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She stated that she did not observe Kinsley inside of the house, so she asked Tony where Kinsley was located.

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She explained that Tony told her that she was in the back bedroom, laid on the bed and underneath a blanket.

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This was the same room that the closet was located.

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MS stated that she was under the impression that Kinsley was already dead at that time.

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MS stated she and Ryan then took the rest of the children back to her house.

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And then she denied any further knowledge about what had occurred with Tony and Kinsley.

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See, that's weird to me a little bit because, well, for one thing's kind of messed up is Tony's first reaction is self-preservation and not to fuck up anything she's got going on.

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So come and get the other kids.

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Yeah.

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Come get the other kids before DCS and the police get here.

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Right.

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And then this mother goes in there, MS.

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What would you do if one of our kids called you and said, Hey, such and such is unresponsive.

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Come here now and get my other kids.

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When you got there, would you be like, oh, where you would be like, where's Where where are they at?

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Let me see.

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Let me see if I could help.

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What the fuck happened?

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'm not going to walk in here and say, oh, you think she's dead back there in the room?

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Okay, cool.

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Come on, kids, let's go.

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That just doesn't fucking fit the puzzle pieces in my head.

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No, I mean, as a as a um uh a mother, a a stepgrandmother, all that, I would be running in there trying to start CPR myself.

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Right, absolutely.

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Anything.

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But that's just me.

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You know, all people react differently.

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There's the fly fight or flight response and traumatic situations and stuff like that.

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But it's just wild to me.

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She also stated that she had last seen Kinsley for her birthday in early December of twenty three.

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She stated Kinsley did not look right.

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She explained that Kinsley's hair was thin and raggedy and the color of her skin was not normal.

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She stated Kinsley's face was sunken, but it was harder to observe the weight difference because of the clothing she had worn.

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She stated Ryan was told that something needed to be done about Kinsley's condition.

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She stated that she had first met and observed Kinsley in November or December of twenty two.

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She stated Ryan, Tony, Kinsley, and the other children lived with her for some time in 23.

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She also explained that Kinsley to possibly be bipolar or have schizophrenia because she would be okay one moment, then she would be completely different.

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It's not that she's bipolar, schizophrenic.

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Maybe it's because of the way she was being treated at home.

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Well, yeah.

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I mean, I don't know if I've ever I mean I'm sure it's possible, but I've never really heard of a five-year-old being bipolar or schizophrenic.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's possible and I'm sure it happens.

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I've just maybe I you just you don't know what's going on through a kid.

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It seems rare.

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Yeah, it seems really rare to me.

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I mean, people seem like that's a an acquired mental condition.

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And by acquired, I don't mean like you you want to have it or anything, but it seems like it's something that gets worse with age, like the older your brain gets, maybe the more it shows.

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Do you think an environment plays a bigger role on um children's mental health than like the children's genes or DNA or genetics?

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I'd say it's 50-50, if you want my honest opinion.

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I don't I have no clue.

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I was just wondering all the things.

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I think that I mean you you look to your parents or whoever's raising you, and you kind of, you know, mimic their actions and stuff, and then genes obviously play a lot, you know, have a big role in it.

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Definitely.

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MS also stated that Kinsley would wait until everyone went to bed and then get into all the cabinets.

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She stated that she really did not see Kinsley after they moved into the house, and she stated Tony would not bring Kinsley to any family gatherings when she would see the other children.

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MS stated Ryan had to come to the house approximately six months earlier and discussed with her the various issues with Kinsley and Tony that needed to change.

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She stated Ryan told her that he dealt primarily with the boys, and Tony dealt with Kinsley.

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Ryan had told her that he had experienced nightmares that he would wake up and find Kinsley deceased.

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She stated Ryan was afraid Kinsley was going to die.

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And that Ryan expressed that the relationship between Tony and Kinsley was massively different than the relationship Tony had with her boys.

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Ryan told her there was resentment from Tony towards Kinsley, and MS stated that she had her heard Kinsley tell Tony and Ryan that she did not like them and that she did not want to be there.

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She stated Kinsley told them she was going to continue to act how she had, and they would just have to deal with it until somebody took her away from them.

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She denied knowledge of the closet and how it was being utilized.

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She stated Ryan did not come to her about the issues after their long conversation, but she did routinely ask Ryan about Kinsley's status.

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She explained Ryan just told her that everything was moving in the right direction.

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On April 12th, 2024, Detective Nicholson was notified that DCS had just received a report with information that involved Tammy and Kinsley.

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Plainfield Community School Corporation, Director of Food Services, KC reported the following to DCS.

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Now Tammy is the grandmother, which is Tony's mom, that is also charged in connection with this case.

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Tammy is a kitchen manager at an elementary school, and she previously reported information to another employee.

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She stated that while Kinsley was staying the night at her home, in order for Tammy to sleep, she had to tie the child to the bed.

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She did this because Kinsley would not stay in bed as she wanted to get up and eat and drink.

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It is unknown how the child was tied up or for how long at a time.

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It is unknown if the child sustained injuries.

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She has been managing the kitchen since August, and she talked about having the child frequently up until October.

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It is unknown how many days or nights the child stayed with her.

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On April 12th, 2024, Detective Nicholson interviewed the Plainfield Community School Corporation director.

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So I'm guessing this was her boss.

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Now she stated Tammy was one of her food service managers and that Tammy had three to four employees underneath her supervision.

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She stated the night before that one of Tammy's employees called her and told her that Tammy had watched Kinsley often in the past.

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She stated that this witness told her that Tammy had talked a lot a lot about it at the beginning of the school year about how bad of a child Kinsley had been.

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She stated that this witness told her that Tammy had expressed that she had tied Kinsley to the bed so that she could sleep at night.

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This was because of how Kinsley would get into things at night.

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She stated that this witness told her that Tammy talked like that about Kinsley from August until the end of October.

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It was implied that Tammy had taken care of Kinsley a lot during that time.

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She stated she had also talked with Tammy about the situation earlier that day.

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She stated Tammy told her that she picked up the boys every day after school and will take them back home on Denver Drive.

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She stated Tammy told her that she would see Kinsley every day when she took the boys back home, but that she never noticed any issues with Kinsley losing weight or how she had died.

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She also explained she had also heard from other employees that Tammy had been telling them Kinsley drowned.

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She stated Tammy had not said anything like that to her previously.

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She confronted Tammy about the drowning story, and Tammy told her that Tony had said that she was giving Kinsley a bath, but she walked away, and when she did, Kinsley drowned in the bathtub.

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She stated it appeared to her that Tammy was being dishonest when she told her everything that had happened with Tony and Kinsley.

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She stated Tammy just appeared disingenuous about the entire situation and that Tammy was hiding her involvement from her with the police.

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I believe that's one of her messages.

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Yeah.

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I mean, how bad does a five-year-old little girl have to be to where you have to duct tape them?

00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:37.839
What you do is is you feed them where they ain't hungry no more and run their little ass off out in the yard, and usually sleep comes next.

00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:39.039
It's natural.

00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:40.400
It is natural.

00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:41.680
Wow.

00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:46.240
What a horrible situation for this little girl.

00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:49.680
None of it really makes much sense at all to me.

00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:58.720
But on April 12th, 2024, Detective Nicholson and Detective Davis interviewed Tammy's mother, JB, at the child abuse office.

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She stated the following.

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So this would be Tammy's mother, which would be Tony's grandmother and Kinsley's great grandmother.

00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:14.319
She stated Ryan had called them and told everyone that Kinsley had drowned in the bathtub right after DCS left the house.

00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:22.160
She stated that she did not see Kinsley during the eclipse on Monday because she has cancer and has been bedridden.

00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:28.079
She stated that around Christmas of twenty three, she and Tammy observed that Kinsley did not look well.

00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:36.880
She stated it looked like Kinsley needed vitamins, but Kinsley had baggy clothing on that made her, you know, kind of difficult for her to tell her physical condition.

00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.839
She stated Tammy brought protein shakes for Tony to give Kinsley.

00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:46.640
She stated Tammy would ask Tony if Kinsley was getting her protein shakes.

00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:52.480
She stated Tony was a monster that deserved the death penalty for what happened to Kinsley.

00:20:52.640 --> 00:21:00.160
She stated that there were plenty of family members that would have taken care of Kinsley for Tony, but Tony never asked anyone.

00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:05.200
That's pretty bad when your own grandma says she deserves to die for that shit.

00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:21.839
It's one thing to have our opinion for it, but for your own grandmother to say that about you, I think if she would have actually seen Kinsley and noticed her condition, I I think that she would have called and got help for her, but somebody was, you know, steadily making phone calls to DCS.

00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:32.000
I it was like pretty much from November to January, every every couple of weeks, calls were being made, and DCS was just closing them.

00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:43.359
She wasn't really seen by the public much, I don't think if I saw a little kid like that with poop in her hair and bugs on their face and all over man, I would I would definitely have to say something or intervene.

00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:44.319
You could not.

00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:46.160
No, hell no, I couldn't.

00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:56.079
So on April 12th, 2024, the detective interviewed Tammy Halsey at the child abuse office.

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The detective read Tammy her Miranda warning, to which she stated she understood.

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She agreed to speak with detectives further about the case.

00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:12.000
She signed the advice and waiver of rights form, and here's what her interview stated.

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Tammy stated that on Tuesday, April 9th, 2024, she received a text message from Ryan that advised he wanted to call him.

00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.720
She wanted her to call him.

00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:22.960
Tammy stated around 6 30 P.M.

00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:29.359
she called Ryan and he told her that Tony had been given Kinsley a bath when she walked away from the bathroom.

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Tammy stated Ryan then explained that Tony told him that when she returned to the bathroom, she found Kinsley underneath the water and unresponsive.

00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:48.000
She stated she still believed that to be what happened until the recent media stories had shown what Tony had said to detectives.

00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:57.599
She stated that she had spoken to Tony while she had been in jail, and she told her that she did not understand why Ryan said that it was a drowning.

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Tammy stated that during her recent conversations with Tony, she had not talked with Tony about what happened.

00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:11.039
Tammy just admitted she told Ryan to lie to the police slash DCS about how long he had had the children.

00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.720
Tammy stated she just did not want to lose the other children.

00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:25.039
As Tammy explained the events of the past year, it appeared that Tammy was trying to minimize her role and participation with everything that happened with Kinsley.

00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:33.119
Detective Nicholson presented several photographs of Kinsley's physical condition at the hospital from the day she died.

00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:42.240
Tammy did not appear to be surprised and admitted she should have done something to get Kinsley help when she first noticed that things were not right with her.

00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:52.720
Tammy stated DCS had been at their house in Mooresville four times looking for Kinsley and Tony due to reports on Kinsley's condition.

00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:58.319
Tammy stated she never helped DCS locate Tony for any of the reports.

00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:03.200
Tammy stated she wanted to give Tony a chance to get everything together for Kinsley.

00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:12.480
Tammy stated that she had seen Kinsley on Sunday, April 7th, 2024 for a party at LM's house.

00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:21.200
Tammy stated as soon as Tony arrived, she immediately told Kinsley to go to the corner because she was in trouble.

00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:27.920
Tammy stated Kinsley had to stand up and remained face directly into the corner.

00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:32.720
She stated Kinsley remained like that for as long as they were at the party.

00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:40.240
She explained that the next day, April 8th, everyone came to their house in Plainfield for the eclipse.

00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:47.440
Tammy stated Tony had put Kinsley in the corner again in the same manner because Tony said that she was in trouble.

00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:54.799
Tammy stated Kinsley remained like that for several hours of the eclipse party.

00:24:55.440 --> 00:25:02.240
Tammy admitted she would watch Kinsley alone at various times when Tony and Ryan and the rest of the children went somewhere to do things.

00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.759
Tammy stated she watched Kinsley twice at Tony's house.

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The first time was right after Christmas of 2023 when Tony and Ryan went to South Carolina.

00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:19.680
The second time was when Tony gave birth to her newborn baby in March of 2024.

00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:27.440
Tammy explained she observed how Kinsley's physical condition worsened over the course of the last five to six months.

00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:34.720
Tammy stated that Kinsley was last completely normal around October of 2023.

00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:45.599
Tammy stated she thought about calling the police or getting Kinsley medical can attention, but she never did because she did not want to risk Tony losing custody of her other children.

00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:53.039
Tammy stated she first discovered that Tony was putting Kinsley into the closet just before Christmas of 23.

00:25:53.279 --> 00:26:00.400
Tammy explained Tony had first shown her Kinsley inside of the closet while they were on a video call.

00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:09.359
She stated she observed the closet in person and what it had been used for just after Christmas of 23.

00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.920
She observed fecal matter on the wall inside of the closet at that time.

00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:24.559
Tammy stated she learned from Tony that Kinsley had escaped the closet, and Tony had to put a gate inside of the closet to prevent Kinsley from getting to the door.

00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.359
That's a shame that they put that baby in the corner for you.

00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:30.319
I mean, at all.

00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:32.400
The whole thing's a shame, but to miss the eclipse.

00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:36.079
The eclipse was what?

00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:37.759
April 8th.

00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:38.799
I'll never forget that day.

00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:40.559
And here's why I won't forget that day.

00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:54.960
So we have a a neighbor who on Eclipse Day, um, she had a baby, but she didn't go to the hospital because she was on some drugs and she had drugs in her system.

00:26:55.200 --> 00:27:04.799
So she had this baby, and I remember there was like police, ambulances, everything like down our road.

00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:06.160
And it was horrible.

00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.680
They even the police said it looked like a murder scene inside this house.

00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:21.680
And the reason they had called the police is because the girl that had the baby was like had lost so much blood, and they were afraid that she was the person who was there with her was afraid that she was gonna die.

00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:28.799
Yeah, not only I think she was on some kind of drugs and everything, but I'm pretty sure she had a couple warrants for her arrest.

00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:31.119
So she was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna have the kid here.

00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:35.119
And then Kinsley passed away on April 9th the next day.

00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:38.000
And I'm and I remember that because that's my dad's birthday.

00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:43.039
So she had been in the corner the day before for several hours.

00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:49.039
I don't know, I just feel like there's more people that have more culpability in this.

00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:54.640
I mean, sh two days before she died, she's at this gathering at LM's house.

00:27:54.720 --> 00:28:03.839
Um, and she's standing in the corner for all these hours, and nobody, not one adult there, looked at her and thought that something's wrong.

00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.559
You know, I mean, she's got fecal matter in her hair.

00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.039
Uh I'm sure she wasn't cleaned up.

00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.359
I mean, keep in mind this is a five-year-old that weighed 21 pounds.

00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.160
Yeah, I mean, if that don't look right, you know.

00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:23.119
And then she was at, you know, the eclipse party standing in the corner.

00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:28.640
It's just wild to me that no other adult stepped in to help this baby.

00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.599
I wonder if like she was lying to some people.

00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:33.759
Like she was lying to everybody.

00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:39.440
She was saying something about she her uh bronchal flap floppy trachea.

00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:40.640
Yeah, floppy trachea.

00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:42.480
And that she had mild dwarfism.

00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:45.440
That's what she was telling, some bullshit, though.

00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.279
I mean, so you you never know.

00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:50.079
A lot of family might not wanted to get involved in her.

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:56.400
They really believed that the little girl had, you know, birth defects or, you know, that type of situation.

00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.319
Not her mom and her sister.

00:28:58.640 --> 00:28:59.359
No, they knew.

00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.359
They knew exactly what the fuck was going on.

00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:02.640
Absolutely, they did.

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.960
One of our kids would have had to done something real.

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:10.160
I don't know what our kids could have done to make me let them miss the eclipse.

00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:12.799
I mean, that's just one that was a once-in-a-lifetime deal.

00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.160
I'm still in shock by that.

00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.160
Oh, I got a story about that, but that's later on.

00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.599
We can't just say, Oh, I got a story about that, and then just shut us down.

00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:20.720
That's kind of BS.

00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:23.039
Well, I'll tell it when we get done telling it.

00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:33.119
Tammy stated that around mid-February of 2024, Tony mostly kept Kinsley in the closet except for when she left to go anywhere.

00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:39.759
Tammy stated that in mid-March of 2024, she had been at the house and observed that Kinsley was in the closet.

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:44.640
She explained it was around mid-afternoon, and she told Tony that it needed to stop.

00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:51.599
She did not get Kinsley out of the closet at that time and knew that Tony was not going to let her out when she left the house.

00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:58.640
Tammy stated that she knew Kinsley was in the closet most of the day by that time because Tony had told her that.

00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:08.000
She recognized That it was wrong for Kinsley to be in the closet like that, but she did not do anything about it because she did not want Tony to lose custody of her other children.

00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:14.720
She stated that she would receive whatever punishment because she did not do anything to help Kinsley.

00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:20.400
Additionally, Tammy explained that she had watched Kinsley a lot during the summer of 23.

00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:27.599
Tammy stated that she used duct tape, here we go with the duct tape, to try and keep Kinsley from getting up at night.

00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:32.319
Tammy stated that she used the duct tape twice on Kinsley in the same night.

00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:37.200
She explained how she put the duct tape on Kinsley to keep her from getting out.

00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:43.440
Tammy stated she first put the duct tape over her legs and taped it to the bed covers.

00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:51.680
Tammy stated Kinsley was able to get out of this, so she put more duct tape over the top of her shoulders, upper legs, and lower legs.

00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:56.319
Tammy stated she had taped it to the bed covers again.

00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:05.599
After about 20 to 30 minutes, she said Kinsley was moving out of it, so she just ripped up the duct tape and gave up.

00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:10.319
She stated that this had occurred at her house in Plainfield.

00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:14.480
Could you I couldn't imagine being duct taped to the bed at all?

00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:24.079
Like, I move around a lot when I sleep and flip around and just how uncomfortable that would be, how scared this poor little girl probably felt.

00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:27.039
Like, why is this person duct taping me to the bed?

00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.920
That would have to be pure torture for a little five-year-old girl who has, you know, a lot of energy.

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.359
And they leave her sitting in the closet or the corner all day long.

00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:39.839
And then duct tape you to the freaking bed to so you'll not move.

00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:46.559
I don't I really don't see how she had any energy because she's not getting fed the proper amount of food.

00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.079
She's malnourished.

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.079
I was gonna say something about that too.

00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:55.200
I mean, they said that just what the day before or two days prior, she was standing in the corner all day.

00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:56.240
The day before.

00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:05.279
If you look at the images of this little baby's legs, it doesn't even look like she had the energy, the muscle mass, or anything to even stand up.

00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:12.079
It looks like just a bone that you would see with skin over it.

00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:13.839
That's exactly what it looks like.

00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:21.359
I mean, you don't you don't see it's like you don't see muscles or posted this picture on the internet.

00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:25.200
We're definitely not gonna post it, but I just cried whenever I seen it.

00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.119
That's how heartbreaking it was.

00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:34.640
But if you want to see it, you can go to the um pleadings in the lawsuit on my case.

00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:36.000
It's not hard to find.

00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.160
And it will break your heart.

00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:45.119
So with uh after the interview, April 12, 2024, Tammy was placed under arrest.

00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.880
PCO Copeland transported Tammy to the CJC.

00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:53.759
Tammy had been in possession of a black Samsung cellular phone at the time of her arrest.

00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.519
The phone was seized as evidence.

00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:01.200
I bet that cop was sitting there in the interview thinking, I'm about to put the cuffs on this on this chick, man.

00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:06.319
Could you I mean I don't know how police officers do it.

00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:07.039
I'm sorry.

00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.400
I I I don't I don't understand how they do I wear my emotions on my on my face.

00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.720
I mean, you can see if I'm like disgusted or pissed off.

00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.839
I can only imagine they they must train to have the game face that they do in interviewers.

00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:28.240
We watch that shit all the time on TV, and a lot of them are just stone faced when they're hearing some of the most vile bullshit like this.

00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:33.039
The day after Tammy's arrest, she had a co-worker that got interviewed.

00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:37.039
The coworker stated that she worked as an employee under Tammy's supervision.

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:41.680
She stated Tammy had only been working with her since around December of 23.

00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:50.880
She could not recall when exactly, but she had overheard Tammy talking about how Kinsley was over hyper and exhibiting ADH-related behaviors.

00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:58.160
She stated Tammy talked about how she would have to tie or hold Kinsley down to prevent her from getting into things at night.

00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:02.160
She could not recall any further specifics about what Tammy had said.

00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.920
I couldn't imagine doing this shit, let alone going to work and telling everybody.

00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:10.639
Yeah, I had to duct tape my whole granddaughter last night to the bed and her legs.

00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:14.719
It's like there's no shame at all in the things she's done.

00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:16.800
It's like they don't see anything wrong with it.

00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:23.840
Like we we could there's no way I could uh call DCS or the cops to help my granddaughter live because I didn't want the other kids to suffer.

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.079
I mean, what about them to know that I was duct taping her to the bed.

00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:29.039
Insane.

00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:35.119
So on April 13th, 2024, the detective interviewed Tony's sister, LM.

00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:46.239
Here's what she had to say during her interview that she did not know about anything until her mother, Tammy, called and said Kinsley was dead and that Tony had been arrested.

00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:53.039
She explained that she had seen the fire truck and ambulance come through the trailer park.

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:57.280
She lived in the same mobile home community as Tony did.

00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:03.920
She stated that Tony had called her Tuesday afternoon and told her that DCS was coming out to the house.

00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:10.159
She stated Tony asked her to take J.H., to which she agreed.

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.079
She stated she went and picked up J.H.

00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:18.639
from school and called Tony, but Tony did not answer.

00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.800
Later that same day, she received a Facebook message from Ryan.

00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:29.599
She stated Ryan assumed that she had already knew what had happened, but she did not.

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.719
She stated that she only knew what Tammy had told her that evening.

00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:40.800
She stated that she did not see Kinsley at the party on Sunday that was at her house.

00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:45.920
So this party's at your house, and you didn't even see her standing in the corner of your own house.

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:47.280
I'm sorry, but I don't buy that.

00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:48.639
I think you're a liar.

00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:58.239
So Elm stated she did not see Tony or Kinsley at Tammy's house for the solar eclipse the next day because she had left before Tony arrived.

00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:03.519
She stated that she did not see Kinsley at Easter, but she did see Tammy and JB.

00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:11.199
Who the fuck goes to a solar eclipse party and don't they all had to be there at the same time because they're all there for the same reason, right?

00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:16.800
Yeah, I mean the whole ordeal was like 15 or 20 minutes long, like three or four minutes, solid blackout.

00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:36.800
Well, we had a comment on one of our posts about Kinsley that said, allegedly, now this is allegedly, that the sister, Tony's sister, had made a post about how everybody was at um this eclipse party and that she had got to see everybody.

00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.679
Well, anyway, the news came out about Kinsley.

00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:48.480
Dot had passed away, and one of the uh the girls who commented this was asking questions about it.

00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:54.559
Well, well, if she was just at your house the day before, you know, why didn't you say something or or do something?

00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:02.639
Well, I guess she deleted that entire post about the eclipse party and blocked that girl.

00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:05.599
So something must have rattled her cage.

00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.280
Something's awful weird there.

00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.599
And you know, you don't see your your five-year-old niece at Easter.

00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:17.119
I mean, that's always that was always a thing, like when we were growing up, the little girl Easter dresses.

00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:23.280
I mean, everybody wants to see how all the you know the the little girls are dressed up in their hats and Easter dresses.

00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:27.840
Even if we don't see them, our kids in his pictures, all of our grandkids.

00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:39.280
So she stated that she last saw Kinsley on Christmas Day of 2023 at her house, even though she was just at your house two days before this, standing in the corner.

00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:40.239
Okay.

00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:46.559
And she explained Kinsley was very quiet, but she had always been quiet.

00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:47.440
So what is it?

00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:58.639

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