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Welcome everyone to Podcast 69 South, where we cuss and discuss true crime, code cases, current events, and hot topics, along with our state of society today.
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Welcome back, everybody, to 69 South, where we cuss and discuss, and I'm Chop, your host, and riding shotgun is Julie.
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How are you doing today?
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I'm freezing.
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It's cold outside.
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It is cold.
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And snowing and icing and all that stuff kind of gives you a good wintery Christmassy feeling, though.
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I like it, kinda, in a way.
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I only like snow on Christmas Day.
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I wish it would like snow like a shitload on Christmas and then the day after Christmas, or maybe like two days after Christmas, fucking spring.
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Yeah, I can deal with that.
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Instantly.
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Definitely.
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This is part two of the Karen Reed Civil case.
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I don't know about you guys.
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I know this case is a little bit old, but I just can't get enough of it.
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I was up today watching the microdots shit.
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I don't know if you guys watched that on YouTube or not, but it's it's interesting.
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And I just figured out a whole nother world of information.
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I didn't realize all this stuff was going on with Turtle Boy.
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I mean, I knew that he was causing a commotion and a stir.
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But my goodness, I'm gonna have to do a deep dive on this Lindsay chick because the shit I seen today was this world.
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It was juicy T.
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So let's get back into this civil trial.
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We're at the part where Brock, Proctor, Buchanick, and Tully engage in corrupt and biased investigation by not investigating inside the house and interviewing the house defendants as friends rather than suspects.
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So let's jump right back into it.
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So Proctor, Buchanick, Tully, and the MSP never searched for DNA evidence inside the house, never looked for rigid surfaces that could have caused the gash on the back of Mr.
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O'Keeffe's head, never inspected the house defendants' bodies for indication of bruises or cuts that resulted from an altercation, and did not search the house defendants' cell phones.
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This allowed potential evidence to be destroyed, disposed of, removed, or simply just become unrecoverable.
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Proctor, Buchanick's, and Tully's interviews of the house defendants were also outside of the normal protocol.
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They were all interviewed either at their home, their family members' home, their lawyer's home, that was the case of Brian Higgins, their lawyer's office, in the case of Brian Jr.
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and Caitlin Albert, which are the children of Brian and Nicole Albert, their place of employment, or over the phone.
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The interviews were each untimely, unrecorded, and fundamentally designed to protect the house defendants.
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And the house defendants took full advantage of it.
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Yeah, most cases they'd be bringing you down to the station, putting you in a room, recording you audio and video to get your statement.
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That's more than odd.
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Yeah, in hindsight, it's 2020.
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Me and you were on this shit.
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We knew it smelled bad from the gate.
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But now, especially looking back on all of it, it really fucking stinks.
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But as far as the house defendants taking advantage of it, specifically Jennifer McCabe became the point person for the House defendants in providing their false narrative to investigators.
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She managed and communicated details about the House defendants, messaging and the investigation itself, including visiting proctors and other investigators private residences, mapping out timelines to coordinate statements with other witnesses, leading group text message change that were partially deleted, and planning private meetings at all hours of the day and night.
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Indeed, these were never the acts of innocent witnesses seeking to help an investigation concerning the death of an alleged friend.
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Rather, they were predicate acts of conspiracy among a group of people with a shared goal of deflecting their criminal exposure onto someone else.
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The remaining group texts that were not deleted or that were recovered later reveal some of their planning.
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For instance, on the evening of January 29th, Jennifer McCabe texted with her sister, Nicole Albert, that Carrie Roberts, who was present when Mr.
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O'Keeffe's body was found, talked to the cops and kept it simple.
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And that's in quotes.
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Of course, there would be no reason to report back to other House defendants about Roberts, quote unquote, keeping it simple, unless what really happened was more complicated.
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Procter, Buchanac, and the MSP never sought these communications.
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Rather, they were obtained by Karen Reed's defense attorney's repeated motions to compel access to data on Miss McCabe's iPhone.
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And later, in group text with Jennifer McCabe and Brian and Nicole Albert, Matthew McCabe suggested having Chris Albert publicize their crafted story to a reporter saying, Ask Chris to ask someone questions.
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Tell them the guy never went into the house.
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As an endorsement of the plan, Brian Brian Albert responded Exactly.
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Importantly, the text messages from the House defendants' phones that were ultimately recovered and that provided a window into their conspiracy and misconduct as well as MSP's unlawful investigation were not the product of Canton Police Department or Massachusetts State Police investigative work.
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Rather, based on media reports raising serious concerns and questions about MSP's investigation and the House defendant's role in Mr.
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O'Keeffe's death, another quote unquote separate law enforcement agency began its own subsequent investigation.
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That investigation and not Massachusetts state police's resulted in obtaining the House defendant's phones, taking statements from the House defendants, and conducting a separate proceeding, all of which MSP refused to do itself.
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Indeed, the evidence procured by this quote unquote separate law enforcement agencies investigation demonstrates the House defendant's conspiracy and lawful conduct as well as MSP biases and corruption.
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And they're talking about the this quote unquote separate law enforcement agency being the FBI.
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Because the FBI came in and they started an investigation into some of this stuff.
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I'm not exactly sure, but sometime after this incident happened.
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As they should have.
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Yeah, well, you know, I've seen people have to learn the hard way.
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Yeah, we get these probable cause affidavits and we read them or court documents, you know, that you get.
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And at times, law enforcement officers or people's attorney, they blatantly lie in these documents.
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So even when we're reading through them, we have to read through them really with a fine-toothed comb and be like, is this reasonable?
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And you know, if it's not, we really need to talk about it.
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Absolutely.
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What sucks is there is law enforcement people.
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I mean, that's completely honest.
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They want to follow the law, they want to protect and serve.
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And then you have shit like this that goes on and it throws shade over everybody, all the law enforcement officers, man.
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And I know I know a couple of good cops, man, that are honest as the day is long.
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I really do.
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One of your best friends has been a cop for 20 plus years, and he's the coolest guy ever.
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Yeah, shout out to Terry Sibbs, man.
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He's the head of the Spencer Police Department, man.
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He's honest.
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I mean, even as a friend, he's honest, and I've seen his police work.
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I mean, he wouldn't he wouldn't lie for me.
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And I expect that from somebody.
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I respect that.
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You know what I mean?
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Because he has integrity.
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Absolutely.
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But Proctor and Bukinick initially interviewed the McCaves and Brian Albert on January 29th at the McCabe's home on 12 Country Lane in Canton, at which time they again falsely stated that Mr.
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O'Keefe never entered the Albert's home.
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Buchanick and Proctor did not interview Nicole Albert and Brian Higgins until February 3, 22, and did not interview Chris and Julie Albert until February 10th, nearly two weeks after Mr.
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O'Keeffe's death, and more than a week after Miss Reed was arrested and charged.
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Before both interviews, the McCaves and Alberts continued to coordinate their stories as evidence in evidenced in group text.
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Proctor, Bukinek, and Tully likewise failed to conduct a meaningful investigation into Brian Higgins' involvement.
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Now this was the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms agent that had an office at the Canton Police Department who was best friends with Brian Albert.
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Now, when Proctor and Bukinick interviewed Higgins on February 3rd, Higgins presented the troopers with a select set of self-curated text between himself and Karen Reed.
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They learned that Higgins and Miss Reed had been exchanging flirtatious text and that Higgins reported at least one instance in which Miss Reed and Higgins had kissed while at Mr.
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O'Keeffe's house mere weeks before his death.
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Rather than pursuing Higgins as a possible suspect, Proctor, Bukinick, and Tully neglected to investigate this matter further.
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They never interviewed Higgins again.
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Even after surveillance video revealed Higgins was suspiciously hiding his face in the halls of the parking lot and in the building of the Canton Police Department at 1 30 a.m.
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on January 29th.
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This video contradicts Higgins' statements about his actions that night.
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However, not only did Procter, Bukinick, Tully, and MSP not investigate what Higgins was doing or what was in the bag, but they went so far as to hide this video from Karen Reed and her criminal defense attorneys for years.
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Reed's defense did not receive these videos until after Karen Reed's did trial for the first time.
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And even after the quote unquote separate law enforcement agencies investigation revealed late-night phone calls between Brian Albert and Brian Higgins, MSP failed to pursue either witnesses further or seek a full forensic extraction of Higgins' phone or even a simple call log from his cellular provider.
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When it was revealed that Mrs.
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Reed's defense team requested the preservation of Brian Albert's and Higgins' phone in order to forensically image them, this request was allowed by the court.
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Both men got rid of their cell phones within days of one another.
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Higgins went so far as to drive to a military base on Cape Cod, remove the SIM card from his phone, cut the SIM card with scissors he brought with him, and destroy and dispose of the phone and card separately in two different dumpsters, and then drove back home.
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Their destruction of the phones eliminated potentially incriminating communications between them and was a direct result of Proctor's Bukinics and Tully's intentional refusal to collect important investigative evidence that would be exculpatory to Miss Reed.
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Even after learning about the destruction of both witnesses' cell phones, Massachusetts state police investigators had other avenues they could have used to pursue evidence such as cellular toll records or simply interviewing Brian Higgins and Brian Albert to inquire about the nature of the late night communications.
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They intentionally ignore these avenues as well.
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I mean, if you're innocent, why in the fuck would you drive way out of your way?
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I'm not even sh exactly sure how far it was away that he drove, but to a place, take the SIM card out of the phone, cut it up with scissors.
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Who what man carries scissors with them?
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Nobody carries scissors unless you're trying to cut up some weed or something.
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They got grinders for that shit now.
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I'm just saying, though.
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If you're an ATF agent, you're innocent.
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Wouldn't you want to offer every fucking piece of evidence that you had to help the investigation go forward?
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Well, absolutely, you would think so.
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If you had shit to hide, what would you do?
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Cut your SIM card up, fuck the phones up.
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I mean, come on.
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And this all supposedly happened within a day or two of the preservation order being granted.
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So they got wind down the pipeline that this preservation order was going to be granted, supposed allegedly.
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No, they were tipped off 100%.
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And by the time it was actually granted, they said, Oh no, we don't have those anymore.
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We just got rid of them.
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But not only did Proctor fail to probe his friend's stories, he coordinated with them through his sister.
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Proctor spoke to Courtney multiple times a day and knew she was in close contact with and providing information to Julie Albert.
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Julie Albert is Chris Albert's wife.
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Now Julie and Courtney called each other many times before February 1st and 2nd, and at least 67 times between February 1st, 2022, and September 6th, 2022.
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For example, as he prepared to question Chris and Julie Albert on February 10th, Proctor told his sister Courtney that the interview was not, quote, not a big deal.
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Courtney told Proctor that Julie Albert had been nervous and wanted to give him a thank you gift after the interview.
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To avoid scrutiny, Proctor instructed Courtney to tell Julie to give the gift to his wife, Elizabeth Proctor.
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Proctor shared invest investigatory details with Courtney before they were public.
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In the same instance, referenced above, when his sister informed him that Julie Albert had been, quote, so nervous before the interview, instead of investigating further, he shrugged it off, laughed, and asked, quote, why?
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But Proctor knew exactly why Julie and Albert were nervous.
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He sought to reassure her by telling Courtney that, quote, it was fine, just a quick combo.
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And then after the interview, Proctor spoke to Julie on his personal cell phone in an unreported conversation.
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Proctor never treated the Alberts as witness in a murder investigation.
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He treated them like the family friends that they were.
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At one point leading up to some of the interviews, Jen McCabe asked Nicole Albert if she had heard anything more about the investigation.
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Confident that she would learn more from Julie Albert, again through Courtney, Nicole Albert responded, We'll get more info tomorrow.
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Don't want to text about it.
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If that doesn't scream suspicion, I don't know what does.
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It was all a big conglomeration of fuck Karen Reed is what it was.
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So the house defendants did not want to text about their activities and communications because they tried to hide andor lie about them.
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For instance, it was discovered in the second criminal trial that Miss McCabe had lied in her sworn testimony in the first trial about not visiting 34 Fairview with Carrie Roberts on January 30th on their way to Michael Lenck's house.
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However, while they did not text about this meeting, Jen McCabe's cell phone location data obtained later by Reed's defense team reveals that she did in fact visit 34 Fairview just one day after O'Keefe's death and then lied about it.
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The McCabes, Alberts, and Higgins all told the same false story to investigators in their interviews, and Procter, Buchnick, and Thule accepted their coordinated statements without making efforts to corroborate their stories.
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Now rather than investigate their friends and brethren, Proctor, Buchnick, Tully, and the Massachusetts State Police targeted Karen Reed.
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Instead of taking routine, objective, and necessary steps of investigating the McCaves, Higgins, and the Alberts, Proctor, Buchanick, and Tully focused exclusively on Miss Reed and suspect from the start of the investigation, despite substantial evidence exonerating her and implicating others, just as the House defendants intended.
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That's how you know it was a messed up investigation from the start.
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As a good investigator or detective, you start at zero and you collect evidence, you look at clues, you start to form an opinion.
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You don't start with you know what you think or what's going to protect your brethren or your your cop buddies or your neighborhood friends or who your sister or wife grew up with.
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I mean, it's all you know, you start at zero.
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Or just to go by their word, regardless if they're uh a police off officer, a detective, um, uh an important public official, anybody.
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You you always look at the evidence and let that lead you to where you need to go.
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Right.
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He didn't start at zero.
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Like we said earlier, 16 hours in, he was already throwing shade over to Karen Reed.
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He completely believed all the house defendants' bullshit.
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Do you think he believed it?
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I don't even think he fucking believed it.
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Maybe at first he did, but I can just see maybe him owing.
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Now this is speculation.
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I can just see maybe him owing Albert, Brian Albert, you know, a favor, or Chris Albert a favor.
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He was on the Canton Select board, you know, in politics.
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And I'm assumed maybe he didn't know the truth from the beginning, but he was pulled in to it very quickly and realized, oh well, hey, I gotta do this favor for him because he did me a solid one time or some shit like that.
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They knew each other very well, they were all close friends.
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So, you know, maybe he did know from the beginning, but I have no idea.
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I truly don't I don't know if he owed the Alberts or if he was maybe doing some preemptive strike for maybe he would need a favor in the long run.
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I think that it was just an unwritten rule.
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I mean, you fucking protect your brothers in blue at any cost.
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The bad thing about it is there was another brother in blue laying on the yard beat to fucking death.
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And you know how how good and cool and fucking to the point would Proctor have been if he would have stood up, be a stand-up motherfucker and did the right thing and did the right thing.
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He the possibilities would have been endless for him.
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I don't think that would have happened because he was in several investigations before this where he got his hands dirty, didn't go the right way about the law, and all kinds of alleged dirty shit.
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That's a fucked up deal.
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So Proctor seized Miss Reed's cell phone and her SUV within 30 minutes of interviewing her on January 29th.
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He arrested her 72 hours later before reviewing any surveillance from the bars or ring camera footage, before interviewing exculpatory witnesses, and before the medical examiner's official conclusion that the manner of death could not be determined, and that there were no injuries to Mr.
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O'Keeffe's body consistent with the vehicle strike.
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Much to Proctor's surprise, through the separate law enforcement agency's investigation, his contemporaneous text messages were discovered.
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Among them, Proctor texted with his high school friends on the evening of January 29th, the day that he began his investigation.
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He told them that the Massachusetts State Police had already determined the Alberts were not going to receive any scrutiny about Mr.
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O'Keeffe's death, even though the MSP had not at that point visited the crime scene or been in the Alberts home and had performed only a cursory interview of the McCabes and Brian Albert.
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Proctor told his friends that Mr.
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O'Keefe had been hit by a car and had not been in a fight, despite the fact that Mr.
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O'Keefe had suffered no injuries consistent with the vehicle strike, but he did have injuries consistent with a fight and dog attack.
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Proctor rejected a friend's belief that Brian Albert, the homeowner of the property where Mr.
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O'Keefe's body was found, would receive some shit.
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Instead, agreeing with another friend's assumptions that you guys are out to make it cut and dry since it involves cops.
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Proctor revealed that he had already decided he was going to put serious charges on Miss Reed and that she was quote unquote fucked and that there was zero chance she skated.
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From the outset, Proctor was determined to pin it on the girl.
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Proctor's supervisors were aware of his bias and conflicted relationships in this investigation.
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They didn't have to guess, Proctor told them.
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He told them he knew the Alberts.
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Text messages from Procter to Buchanick and the other MSP troopers show Proctor had decided to focus suspicion on Miss Reed to the exclusion of everyone else.
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He told the troopers that Mrs.
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Reed was quote unquote retarded and that he was searching her phone for quote unquote news of her.
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In the text chain, Sergeant Buchanick liked Proctor's text describing Miss Reed as retarded.
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Bukinick received Proctor's text and never reprimanded Proctor or addressed his improper bias and conduct.
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Because he was determined to put serious charges on Miss Reed, Proctor ignored the fact that the Commonwealth's medical examiner could not conclude that Mr.
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O'Keefe's death was a homicide, determining instead that the manner of his death could not be determined.
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The medical examiner also refused to conclude that Mr.
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O'Keeffe died as a result of being struck by a vehicle and later testified at trial that his injuries were not consistent with the car strike.
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Proctor later admitted that in his entire career he had never seen a homicide investigation where the medical examiner could not determine the manner of death, but he remained undeterred in his quest to charge Miss Reed.
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As he later admitted, the medical examiner's refusal to rule the death a homicide did not matter to him.
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Because either way, Miss Reed was going to be charged.
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And you know it's not rocket science to tell if a dude was run over by a car by accident or even by purpose.
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He didn't even have like one bruise on his body where they say the car hit him.
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Not one bruise.
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The poor dude's head was basically squashed.
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Not squashed, but his eyes were beat shut, swelled shut, gash on the back of his head.
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I mean, no tire imprints on his skin, no rubber imprints.
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I mean, I've seen some fucking dudes hit by and run over by no broken skin from the force of the any type of impact.
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No, and of course Road rash.
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Right.
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If these if the Alberts would have been cops and Higgy Higgins wouldn't have been there, the ATF agent, they would have run these dudes through the ringer and they would have found the truth from the get-go.
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Absolutely.
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100% they would have.
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So Procter and Buchanac plant certain evidence and make false statements in court and other legal documents to frame Karen Reed.
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Proctor made this investigation cut and dry by manufacturing a case against Miss Reed.
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A crucial first step was to ensure that the crime scene and evidence was not secured.
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This was in violation of MSP policy and well-established best practices for critical incident investigations.
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Specifically, the MSP crime laboratory requires proper processing of evidence at major crime scenes, including crime scene photography and evidence processing and recovery of latent fingerprint, footwear, and tire track evidence.
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Neither the MSP troopers involved in the investigation nor the CPD police officers on the scene secured the Alberts home or the area where Mr.
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O'Keefe's body was found.
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The MSP did not take any photographs of the house, including any part of the yard where O'Keefe's body was found until February 1st, more than three full days later.
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No photographs were ever taken of the inside of the garage of 34 Fairview.
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This intentional departure from established protocols permitted Proctor and Buchanick to generate false incriminating evidence against Miss Reed and give the House defendants time to destroy the actual evidence.
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Could you imagine how fucking frustration frustrated Karen Reed must have been?
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I couldn't imagine.
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I think I probably would have had a heart attack or I would have been so stressed out that my I probably would have had a brain aneurysm or something.