Dec. 3, 2025

Karen’s Read Civil Lawsuit Part 3

The player is loading ...

Start with the verdict, then rewind the tape. We walk you through the Karen Reed case from indictments to a hung jury to a full acquittal, and into the sweeping civil rights lawsuit that alleges malicious prosecution, planted evidence, phone and video mishandling, and supervisory failures that set the investigation on a single track. No legalese, no fluff—just a clear timeline, the key players, and why certain decisions mattered far more than the headlines suggested.

We dig into the forensic questions that shaped the narrative: what taillight fragments on clothing mean without airtight chain of custody, how injury patterns can challenge a vehicle‑strike theory, and why securing a scene, devices, and surveillance isn’t bureaucratic box‑checking but the backbone of probable cause. You’ll hear how internal discipline and transfers rippled out after the first trial, the role alleged conflicts and personal ties may have played, and what a move to federal court could change about transparency and pace.

Beyond the courtroom, there’s a human cost. Reed lost work, insurance, her home, and years to legal fights while managing Crohn’s disease and multiple sclerosis. We talk about the real economics of defense—experts, filings, discovery—and how quickly reputations shatter when process breaks. If you follow true crime, police accountability, or just care about fair investigations, this story is a masterclass in why procedures, chain of custody, and unbiased oversight are non‑negotiable.

Listen for a focused breakdown of the timeline, the civil claims under Section 1983 and the Massachusetts Civil Rights Act, and what damages and outcomes might look like next. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves meticulous case analysis, and leave a review with the one detail you think will matter most as the lawsuit moves forward.

Come join Patreon.com/69South for your daily dose of The Dailly Detour. A 30 minute daily episode discussing the weird, crazy, and odd news stories with a light hearted funny take.

Visit Rosie's Posy for all your farmstead, sourdough and flower needs at 6082 E. Hadley Rd. , Moorseville, Indiana.

Support the show

Disclaimer: All defendants are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY in a court of law. All facts are alleged until a conviction!

00:00 - Welcome, Trigger Warning, New Patron

00:59 - Framing The Case And Indictments

02:59 - Trials, Mistrial, And Acquittal

04:20 - Personal Fallout And Health Struggles

07:20 - Alleged Misconduct And Removals

10:20 - Evidence Handling And Bias Claims

14:15 - Supervisory Failures Alleged

17:20 - Conspiracy Claims Against “House Defendants”

20:30 - Phones, Videos, And Deleted Footage

24:00 - The Dog Bite Theory And Forensics

28:00 - Paint Stains, Garage Speculation

31:20 - Federal Court Move And Stakes

34:30 - Damages, Liability, And Payout Talk

37:00 - Future Angles: Turtleboy Teaser

01:01:20 - Sign Off And Next Steps

WEBVTT

00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:11.199
Welcome everyone to Podcast 69 South, where we cuss and discuss true crime, code cases, current events, and hot topics, along with our state of society today.

00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.039
This is your trigger warning.

00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:18.320
Our podcast content is produced for adult listeners 18 years of age and older.

00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:22.239
We discuss situations that may be offensive and triggering to some listeners.

00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:25.199
Sit back, relax, and enjoy.

00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.479
Welcome back to 69 South, everybody.

00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:37.520
I am Chop, your host and sitting co-pilots, my beautiful co-host Julie.

00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:38.960
How are you today?

00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:40.479
Freezing.

00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:44.320
It's a little might bit chilly in the studio, I have to say.

00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:51.600
So we have a new Patreon member, and I want to thank Miss Brandy for joining our Patreon.

00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:59.520
And if you'd like to support our show, go to www.patreon.com forward slash 69 South.

00:00:59.920 --> 00:01:05.040
And are you ready to jump into the third part of this Karen Reed lawsuit?

00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:05.840
I am.

00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:07.840
I'm like hooked into this shit.

00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:08.959
Like really.

00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:12.640
The indictments, the trials, and the aftermath.

00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:21.200
Miss Reed was arrested on February first, 2022, pursuant to a criminal complaint charging her with manslaughter, among other charges.

00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.599
She was required to post a$50,000 for bail.

00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:36.079
And the court imposed several other conditions of release, including loss of her driver's license and stay away orders from the O'Keeffe family and John O'Keeffe III's home.

00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:46.640
Miss Reed was later rearrested on June 9, 2022, after being indicted for second-degree murder, manslaughter, and leaving the scene of an accident resulting in death.

00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:51.760
Her bail was set at$100,000 by the Norfolk County Superior Court.

00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:57.760
In February of 23, her bail was reduced to$80,000 at the defendant's request.

00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:01.680
Miss Reed was tried twice by the Commonwealth.

00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:11.120
The first trial started in April of 2024 and ended on July 1st after the court ordered a mistrial because of a hung jury.

00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:23.759
On June 18, 2025, following another nearly two-month trial, Miss Reed was acquitted of all charges associated with the death of John O'Keefe.

00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:28.400
Murder, manslaughter, and leaving the scene of an accident resulting in death.

00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:39.680
For the first time in three and a half years, Karen Reed was able to leave court knowing that the forces aligned against her had failed to convince a jury to buy their deception.

00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.680
Oh, I think this is one of the best trials.

00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:52.159
Both of them, if you had to pick any court trial to watch, it would definitely be these.

00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:54.240
Yeah, it was definitely interesting.

00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:58.639
It was like watching reality TV in reality.

00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:07.919
Beginning in January 2022, the defendant's actions have had profound effect on Miss Reed.

00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.159
She lost her employment and income.

00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:14.000
She lost her she lost her job as a professor.

00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:22.879
I think she was like um as needed uh financial professor um at Bentley College.

00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:26.240
That's a pretty prestigious position, you would think.

00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:27.520
You would think so.

00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:30.319
So obviously she's not a dumb person by any means.

00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:33.120
She also lost her private health insurance.

00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.520
She lost her car and her driver's license.

00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:42.960
She lost her house, her reputation, both personally and professionally, and she was utterly destroyed.

00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:52.879
She incurred multiple millions of dollars in debt for legal fees and additional millions in expert fees and cost.

00:03:53.280 --> 00:04:09.360
In addition, after being arrested twice, jailed twice, and tried twice, she has suffered years of intense stress and emotional harm, worried that she would be imprisoned for the rest of her natural life for a crime that she did not commit.

00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:13.520
I wonder how many times she's thought in her head, boy, freedom sure ain't free.

00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:18.879
If she'd have been a normal person without the resources she had, she'd have been fucked.

00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:20.240
Oh yeah.

00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:21.759
Freedom is scary.

00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:22.079
Deal.

00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:23.439
Deal with it.

00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:25.199
I love that, dude.

00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:32.800
Miss Reed suffers from both Crohn's disease and multiple sclerosis, as documented under seal with the criminal court.

00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:43.360
Miss Reed has undergone tens of surgeries to manage her illnesses prior to January 29, 2022, and endured a blood transfusion just months before Mr.

00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.120
O'Keefe's death.

00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.600
What exactly is Crohn's disease?

00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.759
Well, I didn't know either, so I went to go look it up.

00:04:52.000 --> 00:05:04.560
And Crohn's disease is a chronic inflammation bowel disease that causes your digestive tract to get inflamed.

00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:10.000
And it most often it's the small and large intestines.

00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:17.360
Symptoms vary but include abdominal pain, diarrhea, fatigue, fever, and weight loss.

00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:26.879
The exact cause is unknown, but it's thought to involve an abnormal immune response, genetics, and lifestyle factors.

00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:32.959
It's managed with a combination of medication and lifestyle adjustments.

00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:34.639
That doesn't sound very fun.

00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:40.480
I didn't know what multiple sclerosis was either, so I had to look that up.

00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.800
And I think they're like they could kind of be intertwined after I read them.

00:05:44.959 --> 00:06:01.439
It's a chronic autoimmune disease that damages the myelin sheath protecting nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord, leading to symptoms like vision problems, numbness, weakness, and coordination issues.

00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:15.600
The damage slows or blocks nerve singles, and while the exact cause is unknown, it involves the immune system mistakenly attacking the body, and there's no cure for this.

00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:18.079
She goes through it, boy.

00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:20.560
Could you imagine all that shit wrong with you?

00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:27.279
And then the stress of losing your boyfriend and then getting accused of it, and then just all these people lying.

00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:31.920
You just happen to go through every day for years.

00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:34.959
I couldn't imagine the stress level.

00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.759
I I think that would have driven me crazy.

00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:38.800
Literally.

00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:40.240
Me too.

00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:56.480
So the defendants concocted a plan, executed the plan, and framed an innocent woman, and they are now responsible for these extraordinary damages Miss Reed has suffered at their hands.

00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:05.519
Now it's MSP investigates and punishes Proctor, Buchanick, and Tully for their misconduct during the investigation.

00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:27.360
Proctor wrote more than one-third of the police reports in this case, testified at the state grand jury three separate times, interviewed every member of the Albert and McCabe families, had possession, at least until March 14, 2022, of all John O'Keeffe's clothing and all of the taillight pieces found broken from the housing, processed Mr.

00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.480
O'Keeffe's Chevrolet Traverse the day after Mrs.

00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:49.199
Reed was arraigned, had access to and reviewed all the ring videos, had access to and reviewed all the surveillance from CF McCartney's, had possession of all the CPT, CPD Sallyport and Driveway videos, and numerous other critical investigative activities.

00:07:49.439 --> 00:08:04.560
And yet, once evidence of Proctor's conflicts and lies became public, he was removed from this case in an effort to hide him from the jury and sanitize the compromised investigation while Miss Reed was forced to trial not once but twice.

00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:20.720
Ultimately, Michael Proctor was relieved from duty and transferred out of the detective unit of the Norfolk County District Attorney's Office on July 7, 2024, mere days after the conclusion of Miss Reed's first trial.

00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:26.800
Proctor was terminated from the Massachusetts State Police on March 19, 2025.

00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:41.120
Upon a release from the district attorney of more implicating text messages from Procter's phone on October 18, 2025, Proctor officially ended his appeal with the Civil Service Commission.

00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:53.919
On September 23rd, 24, an MSP Internal Affairs Investigations found Yurley Buchenick failed to perform his supervisory duties in an ongoing investigation.

00:08:54.080 --> 00:09:03.120
On July 7th, Buchenick was transferred out of the NDAO detective unit and reassigned to administrative role in another division.

00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:11.279
On October 18th, Brian Tully was disciplined and reassigned from the SBDU and stripped of his detective designation.

00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:25.519
Tully was given special dispensation by Norfolk County District Attorney Michael Morrissey to continue detective work on the Reed case despite his demotion because of his behavior on this case.

00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:38.159
Upon information and belief, MSP troopers David DeCiso and Jeffrey Cothwhiskey, they have all these names in the case.

00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:39.600
It's the Northeastern people.

00:09:57.759 --> 00:09:58.320
Procter?

00:09:58.480 --> 00:09:58.720
Yeah.

00:09:58.879 --> 00:09:59.440
Oh yeah.

00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:01.759
It's like a domino effect.

00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:15.679
I last I heard there was over a dozen cases that were affected because he was the detective or a part of the investigation.

00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:24.240
I know if I'd have been convicted on some shit that that dude was lying about and then watching the trial, I'd have been like, I knew that motherfucker was a liar.

00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:25.679
I tried to tell everybody.

00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:32.000
Oh, it's it's all it's like the house of cards is coming undone.

00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:38.559
It's crazy how people of authority like that just blatantly abuse their authority.

00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:42.480
It didn't even seem like they were nervous about it.

00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:45.759
It just seemed like it was routine.

00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.320
It came so easy for all of them.

00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.639
But now it's coming apart.

00:10:50.960 --> 00:11:04.720
Proctor, Buchanick, and Tully violated Miss Reed's Fourth Amendment rights by engaging in malicious prosecution of Miss Reed by causing her to be seized pursuant to legal process unsupported by probable cause.

00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:16.399
The criminal proceedings against Miss Reed terminated in her favor when she was acquitted of murder, manslaughter, and leaving the scene of an accident with death.

00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:48.320
Proctor, Buchanick, and Tully caused Miss Reed to be seized without probable cause, as described above, including but not limited to a lending, handling, and participating in the O'Keefe investigation, even though Proctor was conflicted due to his personal relationship with various witnesses, suspects, and potential suspect, which conflicts led to Miss Reed's unlawful treatment.

00:11:48.879 --> 00:12:05.279
Handling the investigation, even though Proctor had an extreme and personal negative bias towards Karen Reed, which bias led to Miss Reed's unlawful treatment, violating MSP's rules, policies, and procedures in all aspects of the investigation.

00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:14.320
Planting, fabricating, and manipulating evidence, falsifying documents, preparing false affidavits, and committing perjury.

00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:30.799
Failing to secure evidence and the crime scene, obtain evidence, timely and appropriately, interview suspects, and investigate the Alberts, McCabe's or Higgins and allowing them to destroy potentially exculpatory evidence like the phones and shit.

00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:39.120
Failing to consider and present exculpatory evidence to prosecutors and the grand jury investigating Mr.

00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:44.720
O'Keeffe's death, such as the evident dog bite injuries on Mr.

00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:57.039
O'Keeffe's arm, and evidence that his injuries were caused by an altercation and not a vehicle strike, such as the lack of lower body trauma on John O'Keeffe.

00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:12.799
Now, following her indictment by a grand jury, Miss Reed was rearrested without probable cause, forced to pay a hundred thousand dollar bond to be released from custody and required to comply with numerous pretrial release previsions.

00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:23.600
This post arraignment deprived her of her liberty and it constitutes seizures under the Fourth Amendment.

00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:16.519
Those deprivations continued during Miss Reed's second trial in part because of Proctor's false testimony at Miss Reed's first trial.

00:14:16.680 --> 00:14:34.200
Among other things, Proctor falsely testified that A, when he first saw the tail light on Miss Reed's car at Miss Reed's parents' house in Dyton, it had large pieces missing and the shattered taillight displayed at the first trial as photographed on February first of 2022.

00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:38.200
It was in the same condition as on January 29th.

00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:44.200
He and Buchanick never touched any part of Miss Reed's vehicle when it was stored in the CPD Sallyport.

00:14:44.680 --> 00:14:55.639
He retrieved taillight pieces on subsequent searches at the Albert's home when he knew he had deposited or arranged for someone to deposit tail light pieces at the property.

00:14:55.879 --> 00:15:07.000
Chris and Julie Albert were his loose acquaintances rather than friends, and his statements in sworn affidavit, all claiming the Lexus was seized at 5 30 p.m.

00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:11.240
and that he arrived in Dyton at 4 30 PM were typos.

00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:12.759
Oops.

00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:14.519
Fucking typos, come on.

00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:16.440
Typos and butt dials.

00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:18.440
Yeah, typos and butt dials.

00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:28.920
So Procter, Bukinick, and Tully, acting under the color of law, violated Miss Reed's Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures.

00:15:29.160 --> 00:15:35.240
As a proximate result of this misconduct, Miss Reed was wrongfully prosecuted for Mr.

00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:53.240
O'Keefe's death and made to defend herself in two trials in the Supreme Court of Norfolk County, resulting in the loss of employment, reputational damages, and millions of dollars of legal expenses, as well as serious emotional and physical distress and injury.

00:15:53.480 --> 00:16:06.040
In addition to an award of damages for these harms, Miss Reed is entitled to her attorney's fees under the United States law, plus cost, interest, and punitive damages.

00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:08.600
That's gonna be a healthy bill.

00:16:09.800 --> 00:16:14.519
So moving on to count two of this liability lawsuit.

00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:20.680
This is the supervisory liability against Bukinick and Tully in their individual capacities.

00:16:20.920 --> 00:16:24.920
The preceding paragraphs are incorporated hereon by reference.

00:16:25.160 --> 00:16:45.160
A supervisor is liable under 42 USC 1983 when the supervisor supervises, trains, or hires a subordinate with deliberate indifference towards the possibility that the subordinate's deficient performance will result in deprivation of an individual's constitutional rights.

00:16:50.280 --> 00:17:05.399
Buchanic and Tully knew or should have known that there was a grave risk that Proctor would fail to investigate the Alberts with whom he had a close personal relationship, which he had disclosed.

00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:24.359
They also knew or should have known that there was a grave risk Proctor would wrongly seek to have Miss Reed charged, given the manifest bias evidenced in his text messages where he sent to Buchanick, among others.

00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:33.559
Bukinick and Thule could have taken easily available steps to avoid a constitutional deficient malice prosecution of Miss Reed.

00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:43.000
Those measures include but are not limited to one replacing Proctor with an unbiased investigator that had no personal relationship with anyone involved in Mr.

00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.279
O'Keeffe's death.

00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:48.919
Two, safeguarding the crime scene and the physical evidence, including Mr.

00:17:49.159 --> 00:17:58.039
O'Keeffe's clothing and forty seven pieces of taillight material to prevent anyone from planting, manufacturing, or manipulating evidence.

00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:16.199
Three, initiating timely searches at the Alberts house, and four, quickly seizing the cell phones and other forms of electronic devices and evidence in the possession of the Alberts, the McCaves, and Higgins, which would have prevented their later manipulation and destruction.

00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:19.319
She's laying it all out, isn't she?

00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.159
Yeah, I don't blame her, man.

00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:42.759
So by not taking any of those measures, Buchanick and Tully permitted Proctor and Tully permitted Buchanick to violate Miss Reed's Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures, and thus themselves violated Miss Reed's Fourth Amendment rights.

00:18:43.079 --> 00:19:02.119
So in these ways, in the lawsuit, it states that Buchanick's conduct was in plain terms, he saw what Proctor was doing, illegally searching and seizing Karen Reed's phone and property in ways that violated her constitutional rights.

00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.679
And he basically said, Yeah, I'll go ahead.

00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:11.399
I'm okay with that by turning a blind eye and letting it happen instead of stopping it or reporting it.

00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:22.679
Buchanick was either approving of the illegal behavior, deliberately ignoring it, or was so extremely negligent that it was basically the same as not caring at all.

00:19:22.919 --> 00:19:25.319
And then same thing with Tully.

00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:33.000
He knew both Procter and Buchanick were breaking the rules and violating Miss Reed's Fourth Amendment rights, and he just went along with it.

00:19:33.159 --> 00:19:43.480
He either supported what they were doing, quietly allowed it, or was so grossly negligent that he might as well have been helping them in the eyes of the law.

00:19:43.639 --> 00:19:46.119
That makes him just as responsible.

00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:51.319
Yeah, and there's there's no way he was oblivious to what was going on.

00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.480
I mean, this isn't just some regular old D UI bullshit.

00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:58.919
This is the death of a Boston police officer.

00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:06.519
So you would think other police officers in another cop's yard at yes, on the front yard.

00:20:06.679 --> 00:20:19.159
So I mean, it's they're basically saying that even though they didn't personally do the illegal searches themselves, they knew it was wrong, they had the power to stop it, and they chose to do nothing.

00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:24.359
Or, you know, and allegedly sometimes gave their blessings.

00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:29.879
So that's what she's saying in this part of the lawsuit.

00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:36.199
And as a proximate result of all this, Miss Reed was wrongfully prosecuted for Mr.

00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:49.720
O'Keefe's death, resulting in the loss of employment, reputational damages, and millions of dollars in legal expenses with serious emotional and physical distress and injury.

00:20:50.039 --> 00:21:00.519
So in addition to an award of damages for these harms, Miss Reed is entitled to her attorney's fees, cost, interest, punitive damages.

00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:04.839
That's an that's another count for all that.

00:21:05.159 --> 00:21:06.119
That's deep.

00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:10.919
Count three is the conspiracy to deprive Miss Reed of her Fourth Amendment rights.

00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:18.119
Also, this is against Procter, Buchanick, Tully, the Alberts, the McCabes, and Brian Higgins.

00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:21.799
The preceding paragraphs are incorporated hereon by reference.

00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:31.000
Procter, Buchanick, Tully, the Alberts, the McCabes, and Brian Higgins shared a common design and acted in concert to frame Miss Reed for Mr.

00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:32.359
O'Keefe's death.

00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:44.919
As a part of their concerted efforts, and among their many other misrepresentations, the Alberts, McCaves, and Higgy Bear agreed with each other to tell investigators that Mr.

00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.119
O'Keeffe never entered the house, that they did not see Mr.

00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:55.240
O'Keefe in the house that night, and that Miss Reed made inculpatory statements on the morning of January 29th.

00:21:55.399 --> 00:21:58.359
You know, I've seen uh there's a lot of shit online.

00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:03.159
I mean, you can go on there and if you look hard enough, you're gonna find what you want to see.

00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:16.439
But a lot of people are like, to for all this shit to be true, like all these people had to make up the same lie and coordinate all this shit together.

00:22:16.679 --> 00:22:18.039
Well, they fucking did.

00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:19.319
They did do that.

00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:20.519
It's obvious.

00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:21.559
It was obvious to me.

00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:24.919
I can tell you right, I can I can tell you right where it started.

00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:38.919
That that morning when she called Jennifer McCabe to try and figure out, you know, if she seen John or where he was because she couldn't find him.

00:22:39.159 --> 00:22:42.839
And then right there she's like, Oh, come over to my house.

00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:53.079
So she just rolls over the house, and then I know she called Carrie Roberts, but wasn't a plan for them to all meet there.

00:22:53.399 --> 00:22:59.959
It was weird how it one thing that struck me odd is well, let's go back to where you just were and see if he's there.

00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:01.799
Like maybe you overlooked him.

00:23:01.959 --> 00:23:05.399
Let's go back to where you just were missing him from.

00:23:05.639 --> 00:23:08.279
I thought that was that could have been to kill time.

00:23:08.919 --> 00:23:10.599
That's exact exactly what it was.

00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:17.240
And then, oh, let's go back here, look for a minute, waste some time, and then we'll drive.

00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:27.399
We'll switch cars, and they uh I believe they did they leave her car there and take somebody else's car to go look for John.

00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:30.119
Yeah, Carrie Roberts was driving her car.

00:23:30.439 --> 00:23:45.079
So sh Jen had Karen drive her car back to John's house, leave her car there while they rode with Carrie over to 34 Fairview.

00:23:45.639 --> 00:24:00.519
I gotta say, um if she would have been convicted and all this and she didn't have the good attorneys that she had, it would have been a pretty good plan for these people.

00:24:00.679 --> 00:24:02.439
I think that they saw Lecky.

00:24:05.399 --> 00:24:06.199
I'm positive of it.

00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:07.000
I'm positive of it.

00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:07.559
And then bam.

00:24:08.199 --> 00:24:16.839
Karen ruined it when she started to go look for him, and then it so happens that okay, well, we're gonna have to find him, and then you got gin in her ear.

00:24:16.919 --> 00:24:20.199
Like, oh, well, do you think a snowplow hit him?

00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.000
And then Karen's thinking, oh my god.

00:24:23.159 --> 00:24:25.879
She said she was thinking everything and could I have hit him?

00:24:26.199 --> 00:24:28.439
And then bam, I bet the light bulb just fucking went off.

00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:31.240
Bing bing bing ding ding is the spark.

00:24:31.399 --> 00:24:37.559
Her asking a question because she's fucking in shock and frazzled and could can't think straight.

00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:46.679
I mean, I couldn't I I couldn't imagine that that's what that's how it started right there.

00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:51.639
And then this she had the chance to Jen McCabe.

00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.319
She was the point person talking to everybody first.

00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:56.359
Everybody.

00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:57.720
Everybody first.

00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:00.199
She is the crypt keeper.

00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:02.519
Yes, she is.

00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:12.279
And I wonder if like say I don't know, it's just it's speculation, but what if they hadn't went over there and Karen didn't say that?

00:25:12.439 --> 00:25:15.079
I just wonder how that would have played out.

00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:16.519
You know what I mean?

00:25:17.159 --> 00:26:31.130
Procter and Bukinick and Tully knew or should have known that the statements made to them by the house defendants were false, and that obvious and easily obtainable evidence existed demonstrating Mr.

00:26:31.210 --> 00:26:40.329
O'Keeffe went into the house where he was involved in a physical altercation during which he was beaten up, fell back gashing his head, and attacked by a dog.

00:26:40.650 --> 00:27:02.410
Instead, because of their close personal and professional ties to the defendants, Proctor, Bukinick, and Tully agreed with each other to use the house defendants' misrepresentations as the predicate for an implicit direction to conduct an investigation that solely targeted Miss Reed to the exclusion of everyone else and anyone else.

00:27:03.210 --> 00:27:57.690
In furtherance of this plan, among other unlawful conduct, Proctor, Bukinick, and Tully agreed to continue to handle the investigation even though they had personal relationships with suspects in the murder, which led to unlawful and favorable treatment of potential suspects, to continue to handle the investigation, even though they had biases against investigating the House defendants because of the House defendants' ties to law enforcement, to continue to handle the investigation even though they had exhibited an extreme and personal negative bias towards Karen Reed, and to violate rules, policies, and procedures in all aspects of the investigation to paint, manufacture, and manipulate evidence, falsify documents, and commit perjury.

00:28:28.089 --> 00:28:38.410
Finally, Proctor, Buchanick, and Tully coordinated with the Alberts and McCabes through Proctor's sister, Courtney, who communicated frequently with Julie Albert.

00:28:38.730 --> 00:28:52.650
Acting pursuant to the plan, Proctor and Buchanick interviewed the McCaves and Brian Albert in a cursory manner and all the same locations midday on the 29th of January and Nicole Albert on February 3rd.

00:28:52.890 --> 00:29:04.009
Procter and Buchanick only interviewed Higgins once at his attorney's home and did not secure or search his phone or search for communications between him, the Alberts, and the McCabes.

00:29:04.170 --> 00:29:09.690
Procter and Buchanick did not search the Alberts' phones or home where there was likely evidence of Mr.

00:29:09.849 --> 00:29:10.890
O'Keeffe's murder.

00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:17.930
Brian Albert and Higgins destroyed or discarded their phones, destroying evidence of the murder and cover up.

00:29:18.089 --> 00:29:19.289
That's another good question.

00:29:19.450 --> 00:29:22.250
Why would you just fucking destroy your phone?

00:29:22.490 --> 00:29:27.049
Literally like the day that you knew that they were going to seize him if there wasn't some shit on there.

00:29:27.210 --> 00:29:38.569
And if them cops would have gone into 34 Fairview that morning, they would have found the evidence that would have just blew the case apart and somebody would have been fucked.

00:29:38.890 --> 00:29:47.450
Oh yeah, but I can't even believe it it was so nonchalant, like there's a dead police officer in in your yard.

00:29:47.930 --> 00:29:52.410
Yeah, and then Brian Albert looks out the window and goes down and makes him a bacon sandwich.

00:29:53.289 --> 00:30:00.170
Not to mention he's a a a Boston cop, a first responder, uh thing.

00:30:00.329 --> 00:30:03.769
And he didn't even he says he didn't see or hear nothing.

00:30:03.930 --> 00:30:09.769
You have all these emergency vehicles outside your bedroom window, and you don't see or hear anything.

00:30:10.089 --> 00:30:11.930
And you're not gonna, you're you're a cop.

00:30:12.089 --> 00:30:15.450
You're not gonna go out there and be like, what the hell's going on out here?

00:30:15.609 --> 00:30:17.450
Oh, there's a dead cop in my yard?

00:30:17.609 --> 00:30:18.650
What the F.

00:30:19.529 --> 00:30:20.250
Come on.

00:30:20.569 --> 00:30:20.890
Right.

00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:23.529
And he knew who John O'Keefe was.

00:30:23.769 --> 00:30:26.250
Well, yeah, they were just at the bar partying together.

00:30:27.210 --> 00:30:37.210
Him and Brian Higgins, if you can watch the the waterfall bar and the other bar videos, they're playing grab ass and Higgins is trying to show off.

00:30:37.289 --> 00:30:40.089
They call it peacocking, like they're fucking drunk.

00:30:40.730 --> 00:30:41.609
Peacocking.

00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:44.970
Not a peacock though his tail feathers up, you know what I mean?

00:30:45.049 --> 00:30:46.730
A show off for the lady peacocks.

00:30:46.809 --> 00:30:50.170
That's basically what dude was doing in front of Karen Reed that day.

00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:51.690
And she wouldn't even look his way.

00:30:51.769 --> 00:30:53.849
It pissed him off, hurt his pride.

00:30:54.089 --> 00:30:59.289
Oh, yeah, it did, especially because you know they were in um New York and they were coming back from New York.

00:30:59.370 --> 00:31:10.410
So they were drinking all day on the way back, talking this, and you know Higgins was like, Oh, yeah, I've been hollering at John O'Keeffe's old lady Karen.

00:31:10.730 --> 00:31:12.890
Yeah, I'm trying to smash Reed.

00:31:14.170 --> 00:31:15.289
You know they were.

00:31:15.450 --> 00:31:18.890
I mean, it just you know it happened that way.

00:31:19.049 --> 00:31:19.690
You know it did.

00:31:19.930 --> 00:31:25.609
It did, and they stopped at a couple bars before they even got to the waterfall.

00:31:26.170 --> 00:31:28.809
So they were they were good and and lit.

00:31:29.210 --> 00:31:30.569
Good and lit.

00:31:30.890 --> 00:31:44.089
So as a result of the conspiracy between and among them, Proctor, Bukinick, and Tully never investigated the house defendants, and instead, Miss Reed was wrongfully arrested and prosecuted.

00:31:44.730 --> 00:31:46.970
In violation of her Fourth Amendment rights.

00:31:47.609 --> 00:32:04.089
Procter, Buchinick, Tully, and the House defendants acted in unison and had a peculiar power of coercion over Miss Reed because Proctor, Buchanick, and Tully were the state police employees investigating Mr.

00:32:04.250 --> 00:32:26.730
O'Keefe's murder, and the House defendants were able to direct that investigation solely towards Miss Reed because of their personal and professional connections to Procter, Buchinick, and Tully, and their superior knowledge of police and criminal investigations as a result of their own work and connection to law enforcement.

00:32:27.289 --> 00:32:41.049
The proximate result of Miss Reed's wrongful prosecution was her loss of employment, reputable damages, reputational damages, again, millions of dollars in legal expenses, serious emotional and physical distress, and injury.

00:32:41.289 --> 00:32:46.730
In addition to award of damages for these harms, Miss Reed again is entitled to her attorney fees.

00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:58.410
Count four of this lawsuit is the Massachusetts Civil Rights Act against Procter, Buchananick, Tully, the Alberts McCabe, and Brian Higgins.

00:32:59.769 --> 00:33:15.289
Proctor, Buchanick, Tully, and the House defendants interfered or attempted to interfere with Miss Reed's exercise or enjoyment of her rights under the Federal and Commonwealth constitutions and laws through threats, intimidation, or coercion.

00:33:15.690 --> 00:33:53.849
Among other acts, by manufacturing and planting evidence, not securing the crime scene, not searching the Alberts home or the Alberts and Higgins phones, and ignoring exculpatory evidence such as the dog bite injuries and lack of injuries consistent with a vehicle strike, Proctor Bukinick caused Miss Reed's wrongful indictment, arrest, and prosecution, and thereby interfered and attempted to interfere with her rights under the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article 14 of the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights.

00:33:54.170 --> 00:34:04.569
The other day somebody was on the on the Facebook, the free Karen Reed thing, and they were like, I was on there arguing with somebody on it, and they were like, Well, how do you know?

00:34:04.730 --> 00:34:06.569
How do you know that she didn't do it?

00:34:06.730 --> 00:34:07.609
How do you know this?

00:34:07.769 --> 00:34:08.409
How do you know that?

00:34:08.569 --> 00:34:16.250
I said, Well, I wasn't there, but I have an IQ of over fucking 15, so that's how I know.

00:34:17.210 --> 00:34:29.130
I mean, clearly the dog bite thing, it's just it just makes you wonder where they sitting there and then just I mean, every aspect of the case, they had to come up with another bullshit, crazy thing.

00:34:29.929 --> 00:34:36.730
Then they had to come up with well that then the people started realizing the dog wasn't there that morning.

00:34:36.969 --> 00:34:38.650
Yeah, Chloe is still missing.

00:34:38.889 --> 00:34:47.210
Chloe, the German shepherd slash police dog who was trying to attack anybody that's fucking with their owner type shit.

00:34:47.769 --> 00:34:49.130
Absolutely.

00:34:49.529 --> 00:34:50.889
That that's interesting.

00:34:51.049 --> 00:35:06.409
I think that um we're gonna see more evidence about this dog bite from uh more professionals because I heard that there was a lot more of the dog by evidence that they couldn't get into the trial.

00:35:06.650 --> 00:35:06.889
Really?

00:35:07.130 --> 00:35:16.890
So I'm sure that they'll bring it out in this trial because the burden of proof is on Karen Reed because she's the plaintiff in the matter.

00:35:17.370 --> 00:35:19.210
I think she's gonna deliver.

00:35:19.769 --> 00:35:20.650
I hope so.

00:35:20.730 --> 00:35:21.690
I'm rooting for.

00:35:22.170 --> 00:35:23.930
By falsely representing that Mr.

00:35:24.010 --> 00:35:32.090
O'Keefe never entered the Alberts house and by relocating his body to the location on the Albert's property where they claimed Miss Reed dropped off Mr.

00:35:32.250 --> 00:35:39.769
O'Keefe, the Alberts, the McCabes, and Brian Higgins caused Miss Reed's wrongful indictment, arrest, and prosecution.

00:35:39.930 --> 00:35:50.890
Brian Albert and Brian Higgins also caused Miss Reed's wrongful indictment, arrest, and prosecution by destroying or discarding their phones, eliminating exculpatory evidence.

00:35:51.050 --> 00:36:03.370
The House defendants thereby interfered and attempted to interfere with Miss Reed's rights under the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article 14 of the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights.

00:36:27.290 --> 00:36:33.770
As a proximate result of the defendant's actions, Miss Reed was wrongfully prosecuted for Mr.

00:36:33.930 --> 00:36:41.290
O'Keefe's death, resulting in her loss of employment, reputation, millions in legal fees.

00:36:41.690 --> 00:36:45.050
So she's looking to get her paid.

00:36:45.770 --> 00:36:46.730
Yeah, paid.

00:36:46.810 --> 00:36:51.690
She's entitled to court cost, interest, attorney's fees, the whole nine.

00:36:52.410 --> 00:36:58.970
And there's account five also in the lawsuit, and it's called Common Law Malicious Prosecution.

00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:05.290
This is against all the House defendants, Bukinick, Tully, Brian Higgins, all of them.

00:37:05.690 --> 00:37:15.850
By manufacturing and planning evidence, not securing the crime scene, not searching the Alberts' home or the Alberts and Higgins' phone, and ignoring exculpatory evidence such as Mr.

00:37:16.010 --> 00:37:21.530
O'Keeffe's dog bites and his lack of injuries consistent with a vehicle strike, they caused Mr.

00:37:22.170 --> 00:37:24.090
indictment, arrest, and prosecution.

00:37:24.410 --> 00:37:40.250
Miss Reed's indictment, arrest, and prosecution occurred without probable cause because they were based on false, manufactured, manipulated, and planted evidence, and because they ignored exculpatory evidence and allowed potential exculpatory evidence to be destroyed.

00:37:40.650 --> 00:37:51.530
These criminal proceedings were instituted with malice as evidenced by Proctor, Buchanick, and Tully's knowledge that it was based on false evidence.

00:37:51.850 --> 00:38:03.050
Proctor, Buchanick's, and Tully's bias and ill will towards Miss Reed, and for the improper purpose to protect Proctor's friends and acquaintances, the Alberts.

00:38:03.370 --> 00:38:09.210
Do we know if Proctor knew Karen Reed before all this shit went down?

00:38:09.530 --> 00:38:12.170
No, I don't I don't think that he knew her.

00:38:12.490 --> 00:38:12.810
No.

00:38:13.530 --> 00:38:16.890
I I've never heard or seen anything that they knew each other.

00:38:17.210 --> 00:38:21.610
So he was just so biased against her because he was trying to kill his friends.

00:38:21.850 --> 00:38:22.570
Right, right.

00:38:22.890 --> 00:38:24.410
Those were his buddies.

00:38:24.730 --> 00:38:29.450
His homeboys, his boys in blue brothers in blue.

00:38:30.250 --> 00:38:39.450
The criminal proceedings terminated in Miss Reed's favor when she was acquitted of murder, manslaughter, and leaving the scene of an accident with a death.

00:38:39.850 --> 00:38:41.770
By falsely representing that Mr.

00:38:41.850 --> 00:38:52.170
O'Keefe never entered the Albert's house and by relocating his body to the location on the Albert property where Jennifer McKay would claim Miss Reed dropped off Mr.

00:38:52.330 --> 00:38:53.050
O'Keefe.

00:38:53.370 --> 00:39:01.210
Brian and Nicole Albert, the McCabe's, and Higgins caused Miss Reed's wrongful indictment, arrest, and prosecution.

00:39:01.450 --> 00:39:12.650
Brian Albert and Brian Higgins also caused Miss Reed's wrongful indictment, arrest, and prosecution by destroying or discarding their phones and eliminating exculpatory evidence.

00:39:12.890 --> 00:39:27.930
As a proximate result of the defendant's action, Miss Reed was wrongfully prosecuted for the death of John O'Keefe, which resulted in her loss of employment, cost her millions of dollars, the whole nine.

00:39:28.170 --> 00:39:33.130
Yeah, it's basically just repeating what she's wanting the damages for.

00:39:33.530 --> 00:39:34.650
But they have to lay it out.

00:39:35.050 --> 00:39:35.530
Exactly.

00:39:36.090 --> 00:39:43.850
Count six is the intentional infliction of emotional distress against Procter, Buchananic, Tully, Alberts, McCaves, and Higgins.

00:39:44.170 --> 00:40:02.810
And it's going through the same thing by them planning the tail light pieces, not going in and checking out the house, not securing the whole crime scene, and letting the Alberts and Higgins phones get food in the trash and cut up with scissors sim card and thrown in different areas.

00:40:03.210 --> 00:40:04.410
On a military base.

00:40:04.730 --> 00:40:05.850
On a military base.

00:40:06.010 --> 00:40:16.890
Um again not checking out the dog bites and the lack of injuries consistent with the vehicle strike that they again caused her indictment and arrest.

00:40:17.210 --> 00:40:26.730
The defendants knew or should have known their conduct would cause Miss Reed emotional distress since it would lead to her prosecution for murder and other crimes.

00:40:26.890 --> 00:40:32.490
And the conduct did cause and is causing Miss Reed's severe emotional and physical distress.

00:40:32.810 --> 00:40:40.090
They basically just manipulated the justice system to show their the narrative that they wanted to show.

00:40:40.330 --> 00:40:50.810
And in doing that, they lost a bunch of shit that could have proved who really, you know, killed him and let that person escape liability and then threatened to put her in jail.

00:40:50.970 --> 00:40:55.130
Not only were they lying about all this shit, but just they knew they were lying.

00:40:55.370 --> 00:41:01.290
I wonder if in the in the back of any of their heads, well, of course the house defendants and Higgins, they all knew what happened.

00:41:01.450 --> 00:41:07.050
In the back of Proctor's head, do you think that he really, really, really thought that maybe she did it?

00:41:07.290 --> 00:41:11.450
So he was putting all this together because he didn't have any evidence.

00:41:16.730 --> 00:41:18.970
Do you think that's what happened there?

00:41:19.370 --> 00:41:26.090
Or do you think maybe he owed Albert a solid for something and he was like, oh brother, it's time to pay up now?

00:41:26.330 --> 00:41:32.810
Yeah, I think the latter of the two that you just said, he probably owed him a freaking cop solid, bro.

00:41:33.210 --> 00:41:40.010
Remember when I let your cousin off the hook for the chomo shit he did?

00:41:40.090 --> 00:41:44.410
I'm not just I'm not saying that happened, but you know, speculation.

00:41:44.810 --> 00:41:48.090
You know them fucking cops give each other favors and shit all the time.

00:41:48.330 --> 00:41:49.130
Oh yeah.

00:41:49.450 --> 00:41:50.410
Tit for tat.

00:41:50.890 --> 00:41:58.810
Oh, and his brother, Chris Albert, he actually hit a man while he was drinking and driving and killed him.

00:41:59.130 --> 00:42:01.050
Yes, like years before this.

00:42:01.210 --> 00:42:07.450
And I think he only did some probation, maybe six months or some shit like that.

00:42:07.610 --> 00:42:09.690
He wasn't he wasn't locked up long.

00:42:09.930 --> 00:42:15.610
And for him to go against another person, like do you know you just literally went through that shit.

00:42:15.690 --> 00:42:20.810
You actually did that shit, and now you're trying to throw this on an innocent person.

00:42:21.130 --> 00:42:31.610
Another funny is that Karen Reed had uh bailed Paulo Keefe out of jail for DUI before this.

00:42:31.930 --> 00:42:32.570
Really?

00:42:33.290 --> 00:42:35.930
Was Paulo Keefe was he a an officer too?

00:42:36.170 --> 00:42:39.210
No, I don't know what I really don't know what he did.

00:42:40.170 --> 00:42:43.930
But I guess as a lady caught him on Tinder swiping writer.

00:42:44.410 --> 00:42:44.970
Oh yeah.

00:42:45.210 --> 00:42:50.810
And it got posted on Reddit and a whole bunch of shit went weird over it.

00:42:51.050 --> 00:42:52.010
But anyway.

00:42:53.210 --> 00:42:59.050
I wonder if Karen Reed has like a a TikTok or something like that where she's actually making money.

00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:00.490
Because she's fucking famous now.

00:43:00.650 --> 00:43:03.770
I mean, everybody knows who Karen Reed is.

00:43:04.250 --> 00:43:07.450
Everybody knows who Michael Proctor is and the Alberts are.

00:43:07.530 --> 00:43:16.730
I mean, they're like they're gonna have a they could do like a whole this could be a whole general hospital or days of your life type shit.

00:43:17.370 --> 00:43:18.570
It sure could.

00:43:18.890 --> 00:43:23.130
There's gonna there's gotta be a Netflix series.

00:43:23.290 --> 00:43:23.930
Oh yeah.

00:43:24.090 --> 00:43:26.090
Netflix have got to put this shit together.

00:43:26.170 --> 00:43:28.170
I hope they let the microbox lead help.

00:43:28.570 --> 00:43:36.330
A Boston a Boston cop kind of Taylor Sheridan type.

00:43:37.050 --> 00:43:38.970
Oh man, he'd do a good episode.

00:43:39.130 --> 00:43:40.250
Oh, he would do it perfect.

00:43:40.490 --> 00:43:42.810
That would be that would be freaking awesome.

00:43:44.250 --> 00:43:52.490
So count seven of this lawsuit is civil conspiracy against Proctor, Buchanick, Tully, the Alberts, McCabe's and and Higgins.

00:43:52.890 --> 00:44:04.170
Now Procter, Buchinick, Tully, Alberts McCabes, and Higgins shared a common design and acted in concert to frame Miss Reed for Mr.

00:44:04.250 --> 00:44:05.610
O'Keeffe's death.

00:44:05.850 --> 00:44:18.890
As a part of their efforts and among their many other misrepresentations, the Alberts, McCaves, and Higgins agreed with each other to tell investigators that Mr.

00:44:19.130 --> 00:44:23.690
O'Keefe never entered the house, that they did not see Mr.

00:44:23.850 --> 00:44:32.410
O'Keefe in the house that night, and that Miss Reed made inculpatory statements on the morning of January 29th.

00:44:45.290 --> 00:44:56.730
Procter, Buchanick, and Tully knew or should have known that the statements made to them by the House defendants were false, and that obvious and easily obtainable evidence existed demonstrating Mr.

00:44:56.810 --> 00:45:04.250
O'Keeffe went into the house where he was involved in a physical altercation and beat up, hit his head, and got bit by the dog.

00:45:04.730 --> 00:45:06.410
You know what just popped into my mind?

00:45:06.570 --> 00:45:07.930
I wanted to say this before.

00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:09.850
This sounds so wild.

00:45:10.410 --> 00:45:12.330
It does sound wild.

00:45:12.650 --> 00:45:15.930
But you know they show pictures of the Albert's basement.

00:45:16.090 --> 00:45:18.090
So these are fucking detectives and cops.

00:45:18.170 --> 00:45:20.090
I mean, they know how to cover up some shit.

00:45:20.250 --> 00:45:20.570
Yeah.

00:45:20.730 --> 00:45:27.850
But I can't get over like their house was like spotless, but in the basement they had a gym and shit.

00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:33.210
I cannot get over the spilled red paint on the fucking floor.

00:45:33.770 --> 00:45:34.730
Oh, is it in the basement?

00:45:35.210 --> 00:45:36.010
Was it in the garage?

00:45:36.410 --> 00:45:37.610
Let's look that up real quick.

00:45:37.770 --> 00:45:39.370
Because Okay, hold on.

00:45:39.690 --> 00:45:45.690
I mean, if you were gonna hide some blood evidence, would you spill some red paint on it?

00:45:45.930 --> 00:45:49.370
Like that's pretty slick, really.

00:45:49.690 --> 00:45:52.970
Because the red paint's gonna soak into the pores of the concrete.

00:45:53.290 --> 00:45:55.770
It's also the right color, you know.

00:45:56.010 --> 00:46:08.330

Karen’s Read Civil Lawsuit Part 3

Listen On

Recent Episodes