June 1, 2025
Solving Tony Bledsoe's 30 Year Cold Case: Probable Cause of Thomas Anderson Jr.
A dismembered body dumped in rural Indiana. A classic Oldsmobile Cutlass that vanished without a trace. A stolen car stereo that sparked a deadly grudge. After more than 30 years of silence, the brutal 1992 murder of Tony Bledsoe is finally coming to light, revealing the dark secrets buried in a small Indiana town.
When human remains - lacking a head, hands, and feet - were discovered at an illegal dump site near Greencastle in April 1992, investigators had little to go on. The victim remained unidentified for decades until a shocking tip in 2019 set the case in motion. Thomas L. Anderson Jr. now stands accused of luring Bledsoe to his death over a dispute involving stolen car parts and a $3,000 stereo system.
The details that emerged are nothing short of horrific. According to testimony, after Bledsoe was shot and stabbed multiple times, his body was dismembered, with the separated parts encased in concrete and the torso spray-painted black before being discarded. The cold-blooded nature of the crime wasn't just about murder - it was a calculated attempt to ensure the victim would never be identified.
What makes this case particularly chilling is how the alleged perpetrators continued living in plain sight for decades. While Anderson awaits his July 2025 court date, his alleged accomplice Andy Emmert remained employed as the utility superintendent in Atlanta, Indiana until recently being terminated by the town council. Despite police seizing a knife matching the murder weapon and two Oldsmobile Cutlasses during a raid on Emmert's property, he hasn't been charged - creating division in the small community.
Tony Bledsoe's son, who bears a striking resemblance to his father, has made a public plea for additional information. As he poignantly asked in a recent interview: "I want to know why. What's the point?" His question echoes the senselessness of a brutal murder allegedly committed over a trivial dispute.
Have you ever wondered what secrets hide beneath the surface of America's small towns? Join us as we explore how a 30-year-old murder case finally broke open and the ripple effects it's having on a community forced to confront its darkest chapter.
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00:00 - Podcast Introduction and Dedication
02:50 - Cold Case Arrest Announcement
04:56 - Discovery of Dismembered Body
14:32 - Tommy Anderson's Initial Confession
23:49 - The Stolen Firebird Connection
32:57 - Detailed Murder and Dismemberment Account
42:40 - DNA Confirmation and Family Testimony
50:25 - Breaking News: Andy Emmert Fired
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Today we are dedicating this episode to one of our beloved followers, lori Wirt, who sadly passed away this week.
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She fought a long, hard cancer battle but always remained so positive in life.
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We have news of an arrest in a cold case.
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This is coming out of Hamilton County.
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This is a crime that occurred more than 30 years ago and just the last hour Indiana State Police announced they'd arrested a man accused of murdering Tony Bledsoe back in 1992.
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And everybody.
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I'm telling you we promise we have episodes and stuff we're working on out of the state of Indiana, but literally every week that we try to have plans to do something out of the Hoosiers' sake, something else just freaking blows up.
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This story begins with an affidavit filed by law enforcement officer Terry Josh Watson of the Indiana State Police.
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He's filing this affidavit in support of a murder charge against Thomas L Anderson Jr, described as a white male born in 1971, 5'11", 214 pounds, with red hair and blue eyes with red hair and blue eyes.
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Now, this all started on April 3rd 1992, when state police were called to a dump site at County Road 900 West, just north of US 40 in Putnam County.
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Human remains were located, specifically a body without a head, hands or feet.
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This became Indiana State Police Case 53-9414.
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Just a torso.
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That's some gruesome shit.
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Fast forward to March 14, 2018.
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Lieutenant Terry Josh Watson was contacted by Sergeant Bill Clifford of the Hamilton County Sheriff's Department.
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Sergeant Clifford asked Watson to pull an old Indiana State Police missing persons case from the 1990s, believing it might be a murder case, due to a tip he received from Scotty Anderson.
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Now Watson located the cold case file no-transcript.
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Now Tony and Paula lived at 309 Crabtree Court Apartment 3 in Arcadia, indiana, though Crabtree Court has since been renamed to Sunset Court.
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On March 16, 1992, Tony had left his home in his classic gray 1971 Oldsmobile Cutlass with a personalized Indiana license plate TJSTOY.
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Neither Tony nor the car was ever seen again.
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Man, that's a long time for a wife to be missing her husband.
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Now the investigation picked up significantly on September 4th of 2019.
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Around 9 am, chief Urick of the Arcadia Police Department and Lieutenant Watson met with Scotty Anderson at the Arcadia Police Department.
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Now Scotty refused a recorded statement, but the affidavit summarizes what they told officers.
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Scotty stated that Andy Emmert had killed Tony Bledsoe and Tommy referring to Tommy L Anderson Jr had witnessed the entire killing.
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They also said that the whole incident was over, tony hassling Andy about a stolen car.
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The individual stated that Tommy brought Tony over to Andy's house and Andy shot Tony in the head with a shotgun.
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I think it was stolen car parts it was supposedly a radio.
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We'll get into that though.
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Yeah.
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So what's even more disturbing is that Scotty told them that Andy and Tommy cut up Tony's body and dumped it off bridges all over the state of Indiana.
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They cut off the head, hands and feet and put them in a bucket full of concrete.
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That's hardcore.
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That's like some mafia shit.
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Now this is his nephew telling right.
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Exactly, we were kind of wondering.
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So we dug a little bit, why in the hell would a nephew be telling on his uncle?
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And we found some shit.
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And this is just speculation.
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But Scotty has some charges that kind of coincide with a lot of the dates that's going on in this case.
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So we don't know if that had anything to do with it or not.
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And let me tell you, folks, these charges are not good charges.
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I'm talking about some class B felonies that are neglect of a dependent for a person under 14.
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There's another one for neglect of a dependent with serious bodily injury, and those are just the two main bad ones.
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Yeah, there's quite a few battery charges and domestic batteries on him.
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So much so that he was facing 23 years and I think he ended up doing.
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He got four initial years in prison.
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He did two and then got out on work release and then got in some trouble and, I believe, went back and then messed up and had to do what is it his back time or something like that and then they put him back in there for like four years.
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Yeah, I believe that was the case.
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Oh, scotty just couldn't keep his hands to himself, it looked like, and couldn't keep whatever out of his system because he kept violating, violating, violating and it just it's a never ending thing.
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You guys can look it up on my case just like we did.
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So he had done 10 years, or I mean he had done a lot of time and then he got in trouble again on another pretty serious battery case, and then that's when the information and the tip came in.
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And then that's when the information and the tip came in.
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Just goes to show you folks that you never want to be telling anybody anything.
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A fish that doesn't open its mouth doesn't get caught, if you know what I mean.
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So later on that day, on September 4th 2019, around 11 am, chief Ulrich and Lieutenant Watson went to an address in Atlanta, indiana, where Tommy Anderson lives with his mother.
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They were met by Tommy's mom and when they asked to speak with Tommy, he came to the door.
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The officers asked Tommy if he would accompany them to the Arcadia Police Department to speak with them.
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Tommy agreed to come and agreed to a recorded interview.
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The affidavit states that Tommy was interviewed three separate times as the investigation progressed.
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You think at this time he knew his nephew was in jail and maybe his nephew had been calling saying, hey, you're going to bond me out, bro, I can't like I can't be sitting here doing this shit.
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I bet you all those times he bonded him out when he got in trouble before I bet you.
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I'm just speculating here, right, we're speculating on that Because if he knew that information and he's in jail all these times and he's like oh, uncle, you know I'm in jail here, can you help me out?
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Help me out man, oh man, I'd do anything to get out of this shit.
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If you know what I mean Unc, you know do anything to get out of this shit.
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If you know what I mean, Unk I bet you they were like that.
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So I wonder if Tommy knew when they came and was like, hey, we need to talk to your ass down at the station.
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Oh, you know, his heart dropped.
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Now let's summarize those three interviews.
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According to the affidavit, Tommy Anderson and Andy Emmer attended the elementary school together and became friends In the early 1990s.
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They even lived together in a duplex on Cicero Road in Noblesville, Indiana.
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Anderson stated that in 1990, emmer's friend, dennis Chichene had a Pontiac Firebird he was struggling to make payments on Emmer and Chichene arranged for Emmer and Anderson to go to Racine, wisconsin where Chicheny lived, and steal the Firebird so Chicheny could use the insurance to pay it off and get out from underneath the loan payment.
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Anderson stated that he and Emmert did in fact carry out this plan to steal the Firebird.
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They stole the car and brought it back to Atlanta.
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This plan to steal the Firebird.
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They stole the car and brought it back to Atlanta.
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Indiana, anderson and Emmert stripped the aftermarket stereo from the Firebird, then abandoned the car and burned it in.
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Boone County, indiana.
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Anderson stated that Emmert traded the stolen stereo equipment to Tony Bledsoe for auto parts.
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Later Anderson informed Bledsoe that he got ripped off in the deal because the stereo was stolen.
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This angered bledsoe, who demanded emmert give him his auto parts back and threatened to go to the police.
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An ongoing grudge ensued between emmert and bledsoe.
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Emmert told anderson this was never going to end.
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Bledsoe would harass him forever about it.
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So what Anderson did is he got pissed off at Emmert and went to Bledsoe and was like hey, those parts were really stolen.
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That's what he did.
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He was like stirring the fucking pot for some reason.
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Also he was definitely playing both sides of the fence.
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I mean mean the dude anderson went with emmert to steal the freaking firebird yeah and then went and told bledsoe hey, uh, dude, sold you a stolen car stereo.
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I wonder if he said but I was the one that helped him steal it.
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That's weird.
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That's kind of some gray area.
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He was playing both sides of the fence like you said yeah, definitely.
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He must have been pissed off at Emmert at the time.
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For something.
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For something.
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After the falling out between Anderson and Emmert, Anderson moved out of the duplex and in with his girlfriend at the time in a house on Main Street in Arcadia, Indiana.
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Anderson learned from his sister that Bledsoe was also living in Arcadia, a couple of blocks from where Anderson was living.
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Now Anderson, knowing approximately where Tony Bledsoe lived, walked towards the area of Bledsoe's house at 309 Crabtree Court.
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Now Anderson identified which house was Bledsoe's by locating his classic Cutlass parked outside of his house.
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Anderson approached Bledsoe at his home and told him he could get his auto parts back and finally put this situation to rest.
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Anderson informed Bledsoe that Emmert works nights and then goes to his girlfriend's house after work, so Emmert would not be there.
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So now he's setting up his buddy to get basically robbed yeah, so anderson stated that they carried out the plan.
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Anderson and bledsoe went to emmert's house on state road 19 south of the green cycle in noblesville, indiana.
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Anderson rode with bledsoe and bledsoe's cutlass to emmert's house in Noblesville and parked right out front of the duplex.
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It goes on to state that Anderson and Bledsoe entered through the back door which opens to a kitchen.
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Anderson walked in first, with Bledsoe following him.
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Anderson stated he heard a loud bang and looked over his shoulder to see Bledsoe shot in the head.
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Now.
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Anderson said Bledsoe then fell backwards into the wall and forwards onto the kitchen floor.
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Anderson stated that Bledsoe was still breathing and gargling.
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Anderson said Emmert was standing in the doorway between Emmert's bedroom and the kitchen holding a rifle.
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Anderson saw Emmert stab Bledsoe several times with a fixed.
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That's another interesting thing that I was thinking about there.
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If Anderson was the first one through the door and dude was already standing there with a shotgun and he shot Bledsoe I mean it was a mean set up it's.
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Uh, it was a freaking setup 100 dude was playing hardcore, both teams there or was that their plan to be like?
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oh well, go tell him, hey, I'm not gonna be here, and when you bring him over he's just gonna think it's you guys and we're getting this shit while he's not home.
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They must have talked about it first.
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There was no cell phones back.
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Then it's like hey, bro, I'm coming in first, you blast, no, it's planned.
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If he is standing there with a shotgun and the first person walks in and you don't shoot them and they're robbing your house, you shoot the next one behind him.
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Yeah, had to be 100% planned if the story that he's telling is facts.
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Anderson elaborated on the knife, describing it as a Boy Scout knife with a shiny, fixed blade and now had rust on it, a leather handle and a metal pommel.
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A knife matching that description was located at Emmert's residence when a search warrant was done on October 2nd 2024 in Emmert's safe.
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Now Anderson stated he and Emmert burned the bat that he had hit Bledsoe with.
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Anderson stated he and Emmert moved Bledsoe's body down the hall and onto a bathtub.
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Emmert told Anderson they needed to make the body unidentifiable.
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Emmert cut Bledsoe's head, hands and feet.
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Then Emmert and Anderson placed the head, hands and feet in the pickle bucket of concrete.
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And for people that don't know really what a pickle bucket is, the way I understand it was because my grandfather used to tell me this we used to do work and shit together.
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Because my grandfather used to tell me this, we used to do work and shit together.
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That's what people called a five-gallon bucket, because White Castle, specifically, would get their sliced pickles and shit in five-gallon buckets so you could go to the back of a White Castle or, I assume, maybe a lot of fast food joints or restaurants, but everybody back then just called them pickle buckets.
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The five-gallon buckets Wow, that's neat.
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Back then just called them pickle buckets.
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The five-gallon buckets Wow, that's neat.
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Now they wrapped Bledsoe's body in cord and spray-painted the body black to make it more concealable.
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They spray-painted Bledsoe's body outside in the backyard of the duplex in Noblesville, leaned up against a shed in the backyard.
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You know this had to be done at like 2 o'clock in the morning.
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I don't know.
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That's the first time I've ever heard of somebody spray painting a torso to conceal it.
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Weird.
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Anderson and Emmert wrapped Bledsoe's body in a tarp and put Bledsoe's body in the trunk of Anderson's girlfriend's car.
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Emmert drove and Anderson was the passenger seat.
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Anderson recalls that Emmert drove them for a long time, heading west to a place with a green in the name or something like that.
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Anderson and Emmert knew the area because they had bought a used car for parts from that area.
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Anderson indicated there was a large ravine where people had thrown out trash for years.
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They dumped the body in the ravine, covered it with a piece of wood to further conceal the body.
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They burned the tarp Bledsoe was wrapped and transported in when they returned home.
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It's worth noting.
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The body dump site is approximately 10 miles from the city of Greencastle, Indiana, and along the main route of US-40.
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I bet a lot of people were familiar with that dump site.
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If it was a big dump site out there, that was kind of more country than it is now Especially back in the 90s.
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Oh yeah.
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Take it down to the dump.
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The affidavit also includes a summary of an interview on June 20th with Tommy Anderson, lieutenant Heron and the FAA.
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Tommy stated, and we quote we get right in the back door and I hear this bang, and then it threw him against the back door and he fell to the floor.
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So I'm, you know, and then Andy comes, because his bedroom was right there, you know, off the kitchen and, um, you know, then I'm sure there was the.
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You know what's?
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What's he doing here?
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So, you know, I thought you weren't going to be here, so I just was going to give him the shit back and be done.
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So then he like pulled away from the door and shut the door and he went and got his knife and I told you about the Boy Scout knife and he started stabbing him in the back.
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And you know we talked about this and you asked me how many times?
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And I think we agreed, you know, maybe six to ten times, but it seemed like a hundred times.
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It was just like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, and when it's a shock-type situation like that, things can seem a little distorted, but that was my guess.
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Maybe six to ten times he stabbed him started, but you know, that was my guess Maybe six to 10 times he stabbed him.
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Now he continued, and this is Verbatim his interview.
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This is Tommy explaining in his own words.
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You could tell he's nervous and tripping.
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So he continued, and so Tony lays there choking for a few minutes and I didn't really know what to say, you know.
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So he choked just for only a few minutes and then he just stopped.
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So Andy went and got his black baseball bat and he wanted me to hit him in the head and I really didn't want to, but it was like you know, he was just he kept.
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You know, you need to do this, do it, do it, do it.
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So I just lifted it up and, you know, dropped it.
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You think he just lifted the baseball bat up and dropped it on dude's head?
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Or you think he's under-emphasizing on that shit right there.
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He's completely under-emphasizing and well, that wasn't good enough.
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So he made me do it just a little harder, and he wasn't moving or making any noise or anything.
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By that time I thought he was already dead.
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So I thought why make me do this?
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And I think he just did it because then he wasn't the only one that did something, you know.
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I can see through some shit right there, because he was saying I thought he was already dead.
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So before this point where he had, quote unquote, hit him with a baseball bat, dude had supposedly allegedly shot him and stabbed him.
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So potentially this could get Anderson out of an actual murder charge.
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Yeah, and you know what I don't know if I I don't believe everything Anderson's telling because you know I don't believe everything Anderson's telling because you know he's the one that went around running his mouth all those years bragging about doing this to this person and made up these stories, what if it was just him that did it?
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You never know really.
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But obviously he was bragging about it all these years and talking the shit and we'll get to a little bit more of that here in a little bit too, Anderson also stated and we're back to the verbatim interview so Andy always had he had a trash barrel out back and he always had a fire going.
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So the bat went into the fire, took off Tony's I can't remember if we carried him into the bathtub first or if he cut off his clothes right there in the kitchen.
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I think he might have done it right there in the kitchen, but then the clothes went into the fire barrel and then he's in the tub.
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Andy looked in his wallet and I think there was two tens in the wallet.
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So we left him in the bathtub and went to Walmart.
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We got some black spray paint and a tarp and then we came back and Andy did the butcher work, if you will, and I was.
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There was a window on the wall behind the toilet, excuse me, and then I was standing over by the toilet feeling like I was going to throw up.
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I bet you were, I guarantee it.
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I opened up the window trying to get some fresh air, you know, and I can't remember if he just had a bag of concrete or we got that too, but what he did was mix up some concrete and then the parts and we took, we put them the bucket, and then we took him from the bathtub.
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Sorry, that's all.
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Those were his words, verbatim.
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And it's kind of hard to get through.
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Kind of jumbled up, you can tell dude was tripping.
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Well, he continued, andy had built like a shed out in the backyard and we put him beside the shed and spray painted him black for camouflage and we covered him up.
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And then because I think that had happened was we had to come and we had to go get a car and then go to Walmart, you know.
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And then he took me back to get my girlfriend's car and then he opened up the trunk and we put the tarp in it where it was hanging out all sides, and we basically just put him in there and wrapped him up like a burrito.
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And then, because I had clothes over there from working on the car so that I could take a shower, and that was to get everything off my clothes, he made me strip them all off and then burn them.
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And then we got him in the car and we headed towards where we got that blue 1970 car and did the body dump.
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On September 4th 2019, lieutenant Watson spoke to the Racine, wisconsin Police Department regarding the Pontiac Firebird that was quote-unquote stolen from Dennis Ticini.
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They located an incident report number 90-95795, which states that on December 22, 1990, between 10.30 am and 2.15 pm, a light blue-silver 1988 Pontiac Firebird belonging to Dennis Ticini was stolen from 5700 Duron Avenue in Racine.
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Chicheney was stolen from 5700 Duron Avenue in Racine, wisconsin, specifically the Regency Mall parking lot where Chicheney worked.
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A note in the police report states that a vehicle contained approximately $3,000 of stereo equipment when it was stolen.
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Boy, they set that up good, didn't they?
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for when it was at work.
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Oh, by the way, my car had a $3,000 stereo stereo system that's a lot of money for a stereo system in 1990 I bet he had four 12s in the trunk, I don't know lieutenant watson also spoke with lieutenant jeff heron with isp regarding a case he recalled from years ago where they recovered a torso.
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Lieutenant Heron told him it was a body dump where the body was thrown into an illegal trash dump in Putnam County near the town of Greencastle.
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He recalled the body being tied up with several stab wounds in the back.
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You know, greencastle was, like we were saying earlier, like a lot of country.
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I mean it's like a lot of country, I mean it's still a lot of country.
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