Feb. 22, 2025

The Hancock County Quartet: Part 4 Erik Reed- A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing

The Hancock County Quartet: Part 4 Erik Reed- A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing

Prepare to confront the stark realities of online child exploitation and the relentless quest for justice. Join us as we uncover the shocking investigation led by Detective Jill Jenkins from the Greenfield Police Department. With insights into the deceptive double life of Eric Scott Reed, this episode highlights how appearances can be profoundly misleading, emphasizing the urgent need for parental vigilance in monitoring children’s online activities. Get ready to hear the chilling details of Reed's actions and the vital work being done to protect our children from online predators.

Discover the heart-wrenching journey of one brave individual who turned personal trauma into a crusade against child predators. Their story acts as a powerful reminder of the dangers lurking on platforms like Roblox and Minecraft, where predators often masquerade as innocent players. This episode takes you through adrenaline-filled encounters, including a dangerous confrontation with a convicted murderer, shedding light on the complexities and challenges faced by those fighting against online child exploitation.

We are thrilled to welcome Chris from Exposing Predators of Innocent Children, who shares his experiences and the critical work of exposing predators across multiple states. Despite the lack of support from some law enforcement agencies, Chris's efforts are invaluable in the fight against child exploitation. As we conclude, we promise to keep you abreast of ongoing court cases and encourage you to join our community on social media for updates. Thank you for tuning in to this essential conversation about protecting the innocent and holding perpetrators accountable.

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Since the last time I am your host Chop for this episode, and with me always is the queen of chaos, julie.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah, that's me.

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I'm here.

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How are you today?

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Lovely, lovely.

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This is going to be the last part of the quartet, the.

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Hancock County Quartet and I suggest if you have children that are present, you shut this off immediately until you have time to yourself to listen, because this is not for kids' ears at all.

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Look, folks, we do have a disclaimer at the start of our show and you know we don't enjoy reporting on a lot of this stuff, but this stuff needs to be reported.

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Parents need to be vigilant about your children, especially their electronics, anything they're doing, who they're around and if you, you know we dummy it up as much as we can, but the fact of the matter is is the shit needs to be reported on.

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If you don't want to hear this type of stuff that we're reporting off, just don't listen to us.

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Other than that, the people that want to continue, we're glad to have you and glad that we can give you this information Now.

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The following is from Detective Jill Jenkins from the Greenfield Police Department, and she swore and believes that she has good calls for the following Now your affiant, jill Jenkins, is employed as a detective sergeant with the Greenfield Police Department and currently assigned part-time to the Hamilton County Metro Child Exploitation Task Force.

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She's been a law enforcement officer since October 23, graduated from the academy and started working in the investigation division in April of 2022.

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She's received training and participated in normal methods of investigations, undercover operations, surveillance, the general questioning of suspects, victims, witnesses and the execution of arrests and search warrants.

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She's assisted in cases involving Internet crimes against children and participated in search warrant executions.

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Children and participated in search warrant executions.

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Now she is making this affidavit in support of an application for an arrest warrant for Eric Scott Reed for the following On March 12, 2024, she observed the National Center for Missing and Exploiting Children Cyber Tip Line, report 187 and a bunch of other numbers.

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It was submitted by Yahoo in reference to a user sending and receiving images of suspected child pornography.

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The user information provided in the report was for Stephanie Reeves, who was using the email kittygadet at blahblahblahcom.

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Now the CyperTip line reported a total of six files that were child exploitation material.

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She reviewed the images associated with the report.

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The files associated in the report all contained child exploitation material as defined in the Indiana Code IC 354244.

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Below she describes four images that pertain to the subject of this affidavit Eric Scott Reed.

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On December 27th 2023, at 9.10 pm.

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This email.

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Ryobjunkie at yahoocom sent kittygadet at yahoocom an email that contained child pornography In that file.

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The image file depicts a topless young girl sitting on her knees with her arms bent back in front of some cabinets.

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The child's upper area was exposed and she was wearing undergarments with multicolored hearts on them.

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They would estimate the age of the child to be between 9 and 11 years old, based on her size.

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The next file that was looked at.

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It was an image and it depicts a little girl posing back on her hands and feet and a towel that is laying in the grass.

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The child is exposing her upper private area and uncovered lower private area.

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They estimated this child to be between nine and years old, based on her development and you know the way she looked basically looked.

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Basically, on february 14, 2024, at 12 49 am, the ryobi junkie email sent kitty gadet two separate emails that contain child pornography.

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Now the first one.

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This image file depicts a nude, a nude female child sitting posed with her knees up.

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Her upper area and her lower area are visible.

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The background is all white.

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I would estimate her age to be approximately 9 to 11 years old, based on her development and size.

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The second image depicts a nude early female child in front of a trailer.

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Her upper area and lower area are visible, and then they would estimate the child to be between 9 and 11 years old, based on her size and looks and development.

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On March 18, 2024, she obtained search warrants for the Yahoo account KittyGadet at Yahoocom and RyobiJunkie at Yahoocom.

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She reviewed the Yahoo return for RyobiJunkie at Yahoocom.

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In the account she located the following additional files that contained child exploitive material.

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The first file depicts a nude adult male sitting on a couch, basically trying to dummy this up for you.

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Basically his shit was like ready to go, with an early-aged female, fully clothed, sitting on the right of the nude male, gripping his private parts with her hand and doing some sexual stuff with him.

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They estimated that child to be between nine and 11 years old.

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There's another one of the females sitting to the left of the male.

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The female is exposed from the waist up and just kissing the adult male.

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They said that the female is pubescent age, but the age is difficult to tell.

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Yeah, disgusting.

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Now that image file was emailed to Kitty Gadet at Yahoo on February 10th 2024.

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2024.

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The next image was an image file depicting a nude small girl laying posed with her legs open on a white blanket.

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Her private areas were exposed.

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I would estimate the age of this child to be 12 to 16 years old, due to her size and development.

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Now this image file was emailed to kittygadet at yahoocom on March 28, 2023 at 8 28 am.

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The next file is an image.

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It depicts a nude female child standing posed, brushing her hair.

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Her upper area and lower areas are exposed.

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I would estimate the age of the child to be between 12 to 16 years old, due to her size.

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Now this image file was emailed to KittyGadet at Yahoocom on February 25th 2023.

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I see a lot of these people with Eric Reid.

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We've had a lot of people that was reaching out to us that were like they were just completely shocked.

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They were blown away because there is quite a few people that knew this dude and there was, you know.

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They were thinking there's no way he's involved in this.

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There's no way there's a mistake.

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Me and julie had to go through quite a bit of a you know a little treasure hunting thing even to get this information.

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It was hard and there's still nothing on my case or doc's pop.

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The last time I looked looked his charges are not even on there.

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Why I have no idea, but it was not easy to get this probable cause.

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Now, on May 30th 2024, members of the Hamilton County Metro Child Exploitation Task Force executed a search warrant in East Fountaintown, Indiana, Hamilton County Sheriff's Office.

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Detective Lawrence Benzen and I conducted an interview with Stephanie Reeves.

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They told Stephanie Reeves her Miranda rights.

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Stephanie signed the form acknowledging that she understood her rights and agreed to speak with the law enforcement officials.

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During the interview, stephanie acknowledged that her email address was kittygadet at yahoocom.

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Stephanie was asked who owned the account ryobijunkie at yahoocom and she advised that was her ex-boyfriend, eric Reid, whom she still stays in contact with.

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Stephanie advised that he currently lives in Morristown with his two kids.

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Stephanie Reeves advised that Eric Reid has a Facebook account and provided his account information as Eric Reid.

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Once Stephanie revealed the identity of the account, the detectives went back through the Yahoo return for Ryobi Junkie.

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At Yahoo, the subscriber details for Ryobi Junkie were limited.

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The name on that account was Scott Doe that must be John's cousin.

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No address, just a county, us with a zip code.

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It did list a birthday as 1981-10-30 and a recovery email.

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The recovery email was BronxFan1998 at Yahoo and was verified on 2015-7-1 at 6-0-1.

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The subpoena returned for BronxFan1998, listed Eric Reid as the subscriber.

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It provided a city as Greenfield, indiana, and another recovery email, reid underscore Eric at Yahoo, verified on March 25th 2020.

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In the original Yahoo return for Ryobi Junkie the detectives checked the contacts.

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There was a name listed as E with an email address, 317-946-707 at mms at at&tnet and phone number of 317-948-REDACTED.

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I located a Cash App account that was associated with that phone number.

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The Cash App name was under ER and the account was Cash Sign ER with some numbers.

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The Yahoo Return also provided an IP address.

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When logged in from the IP address they located an email from a Stephanie Reeves account Kitty Cadet at Yahoo and they showed that she had sent an email from Ryobi Junkie at Yahoo on February 10th 2024.

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The login time was the same timeframe.

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The email was sent On June 7th 2024,.

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They received the subpoena returned back from Frontier Communications for the IP address and it verified the following information that the account name was Eric Reed.

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It had his address, his physical address, a billing address, a billing phone number, a contact phone number, another email address ericreid and some numbers at frontiercom and then a different contact email which was the Bronx fan 1998.

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The length of service he had started that account on May 9th of 2019 and used it up until present and then it had his date of birth.

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During the investigation it was learned that Eric Reed has a white 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander.

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The address on the registration matches the address where he was living Now.

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On June 10th 2024, a search warrant for Eric Reed's residence and person was obtained.

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On June 13th 2024, detectives with the Hamilton County Metro Child Exploitation Task Force executed the search warrant in Morristown, indiana.

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Eric Reid agreed to speak with detectives and was transported to the Morristown Fire Station.

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Yeah, reid was read his Miranda rights.

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He signed the form and dated it and acknowledged that he understood his rights and agreed to speak with us.

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Now people, most of the time when we're talking about these probable cause affidavit, these are all accusations of evidence that the detectives have come to a reasonable you know conclusion to Now during their conversation that Reed had with the detectives.

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Here's a list of statements he made.

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These are actual statements that he admitted to, that he says that are true, which most of these you know.

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I mean, why would you say it if they wasn't true?

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Some of it's pretty shocking.

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We're going to start with A.

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He confirmed that the Bronx fan email was his.

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B.

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He confirmed that the Eric Reid was his work email.

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This is C.

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When confronted with that NCMEC is and why we were talking to Reid, reid stated that the kids were all online images.

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He confirmed the passcode on his phone.

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His phone was on the dresser, unsure of the brand, the detective said.

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Another phone was on the headboard or a side table.

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A Google tablet was in the living room.

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Now he also confirmed that Ryobi Junkie was his account for more than five years, that he knew Stephanie Reeves, that he did send pictures of younger girls.

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He admitted that that the girls were early teens and unclothed Early teens to him was 13 to 14 years old.

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How early of a teen can you get 13?

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Is the first teen.

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Exactly 10, 11, 12 years old were allegedly the youngest that he said he had looked at.

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When asked if they were prepubescent, he stated probably right at that age range.

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He had stated that he was in his early 20s the first time he saw the images and I think today the man's 43 years old correct.

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Yes, correct, so 23 years.

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Reed stated that it was a curiosity.

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Well, he's been curious for 23 years.

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I mean, you're curious at 20, but this is 23 years later.

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Now Reed stated that he wanted to see what this was about and check it out.

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He's been checking it out for 23 years, I guess.

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That goes past a little bit of curiosity.

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Way beyond I mean these poor children that he's exploiting and sending pictures of and looking at weren't even born 10 years ago.

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Exactly.

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He also stated that the last time he saw any type of images of children like that was earlier in the week and it was a weekly struggle.

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He finds material on Telegram which he says there's three to five groups on this app called Telegram that are sharing child pornography that he's a part of Now.

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The material ranges from penetration material to solo material.

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Some of the material shared is very, very, very young, including I don't even want to say this infants, babies, probably under a year.

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To teenagers.

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Yes.

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So folks, that is really disturbing.

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I mean, who in their right mind?

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would want to look at something like that.

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Anything like that, much less an infant.

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I mean that has to take it to a whole nother level of just sheer idiocy, and hopefully it takes it to a whole nother level of charges.

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I mean the younger, the child as we spoke about on another episode.

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The charge range does vary by age?

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If it's, I think it's from 18 to 16, from 16 to 14, something like that.

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Something like that, yeah.

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Which absolutely it should be.

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It's all shitty, but the younger the child, the worse the crime is in my aspect.

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Now sometimes he said he would share images.

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Teenager stuff would be what he would share, mainly solo stuff.

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Reed stated that he tried not to share younger kids stuff but probably has shared it.

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Reed claimed that Reeves has a quote daddy fetish end quote.

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Reed claimed that Reeves would play the quote daughter end quote.

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However, they would reverse roles.

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Reed claimed that Reeves would send teenager girl stuff.

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Reed claimed two to three images were sent on Facebook between Reed and Reeves Two to three times per week.

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Reed would look at images online.

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Reed stated I'm going to look at it but I don't want to do it.

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That's probably what they all say when it's talking about child pornography.

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Would search telegram for teen girls.

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Approximately 50 images are estimated by him to be on his phone.

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All images shown to be less than 18 years old.

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The images were ones that he had sent or were sent to him.

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He estimated some as young as 10 years old.

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After the items of evidence that were collected from the search warrant on June 13, 2024 were forensically downloaded, the detectives observed the following Now this is evidence item number 34, and it reads one of his devices.

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Now there's multiple.

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The image depicts an adult female sitting undressed on a brown leather couch, gripping a juvenile male's private area with her right hand.

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The juvenile male is nude from the waist down, exposing his private areas.

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I would estimate the age of the male to be between 13 and 16 years of age, due to the male's size.

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Now evidence, item number 37,.

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It's another device that Reed had.

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The image on this file depicts a nude pubescent female laying back with her legs in an inappropriate position.

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In an inappropriate position, her top and lower areas are exposed and they would estimate the age from probably 12 to 16 years old, due to her development and things of that nature.

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And these were images from the Ryobi Junkie email from the.

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Ryobi Junkie email.

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There's folks, there's another the case number and when it was filed, and there's other images that were on devices, and I think you get the gist of it.

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It's basically the same stuff, just word a little bit different, and they're different children.

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The fact of the matter is there's so many people that knew this man and were completely oblivious to his—.

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A wolf in sheep's clothing is what he was.

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There's two more images on this PCA and I do want to talk about them because these image depicts two Greenfield Central cheerleaders posing for a picture at a high school track.

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These students have been identified as victim one and victim two.

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At the time of this photo, now, the juvenile female victim one was 17 years age and victim two was 16 years of age, and I believe that he was involved with something in the band or guard with the schools.

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So Eric Scott Reed is presently 43 years old.

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He is 6'2", 300 pounds.

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He's got brown eyes, brown hair, so he's a pretty big dude.

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Big boy.

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And by the accounts of everybody who's reached out and talked to us.

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They've told us that he was just like a big teddy bear.

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This is a complete double life.

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Like people are sick.

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People who were best friends with this man for years are so disgusted and so floored.

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This dude's been living a double life, and when he's around his friends and his family, he's around their children too, and Lord knows what's running through his mind.

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I mean, here at 69 South, we always want to give people the benefit of the doubt and, like I said earlier, there were so many people reaching out about this man so we really had to find out.

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You know for ourselves what the facts are.

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And they found all these images on his devices and all of the statements came straight from his mouth, I mean.

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So there's not much room for doubt there.

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They gave him enough rope to hang himself.

00:22:48.153 --> 00:22:48.736
Absolutely.

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I don't think he needed much.

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The affidavit of probable cause is intended to show only that there's probable cause for the detention of Eric Scott Reed and does not set forth an entirety of your affiance knowledge about this matter.

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And that is the end of Eric Reed's PCA.

00:23:10.635 --> 00:23:11.237
Now coming up.

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We got a special interview with a special guest.

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In this course of this investigation with the Hamilton County Quartet investigation with the Hamilton County Quartet we were reached out to a very cool dude.

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In my opinion.

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He is going to be a special guest on the show.

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I'd like to welcome everybody.

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Chris from EPIC how are you doing today, my brother?

00:23:32.353 --> 00:23:33.777
Doing awesome, man Doing awesome.

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Why don't you explain what EPIC is and what you do?

00:23:39.886 --> 00:23:43.797
So EPIC stands for Exposing Predators of Innocent Children.

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So basically, what we do is we try to combat the online adults against children.

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There's so many adults out here that are preying on our children online line um, if it's from, you know, video games to facebook, to snapchat, to you know any anything that has a chat room and there's, you know, guys and women uh bringing on our children.

00:24:13.337 --> 00:24:20.234
So we try to combat that and uh, we basically we create profiles on different sites.

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We don't go out and contact nobody, we just create profiles and we use pictures that are adults but they look young.

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We tell them that we're underage.

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What inspired you to do this type of work, other than the obvious reasons?

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I was abused when I was a kid and I held it in until I was 33, 34 years old and I was watching other groups do this and I was like man.

00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:57.096
I said I got to do this and since then I you know, I put my whole family on blast, including my father.

00:24:58.759 --> 00:24:59.259
Wow.

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Was that kind of hard for you to do, or was you just happy to get that off your chest?

00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:05.034
Not at all.

00:25:07.289 --> 00:25:09.892
I've been very vocal about my family.

00:25:09.892 --> 00:25:19.416
There's a lot of child predators in my family and their wives have helped cover it up, and I'm tired of it.

00:25:20.465 --> 00:25:21.911
That's awful bold for you to do.

00:25:21.911 --> 00:25:31.135
Man, to be honest with you Now I have had a chance to go to your Facebook page and I've seen some of your live videos and they are epic.

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They are epic, they are amazing.

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No pun intended, man, but in the course of this, man, you learned that we were doing a story about the quartet and Eric Reid was mentioned in that and that's how you reached out to me about and I wanted you to see you guys.

00:25:49.285 --> 00:26:00.916
I see you guys as post about Eric and about a year, a little over a year ago he he was a follower of mine plus he was a follower of many other predator catchers.

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I had put a post up because I was looking for a guy in Shelbyville Eric Redshout says man.

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He said I can help you out.

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He said you know, I know all about Shelbyville, I'm from there.

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He actually drove me around showing me different places where this dude could have worked and you know where the dude might be a frequent flyer at, like the bars and all that.

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And then for me to see him on the news.

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I was just I couldn't believe it.

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You must have been shocked, man.

00:26:35.965 --> 00:26:44.366
This dude's driving you around helping you catch people who's doing this shit and in the meanwhile he's probably over there logged into his phone sending pictures of porn to other people.

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I mean I tell people all the time you really don't know these women that are married to these men, that I bust man.

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They'd be like, oh, he would have never done that.

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And I'll have to go in and show them like, hey, is this a picture of your bedroom?

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Is this a picture of your bed?

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Is this a picture of your husband's private parts on your bed?

00:27:02.829 --> 00:27:05.047
You know, a wife's going to know that stuff.

00:27:05.047 --> 00:27:07.467
Is this your husband's phone number?

00:27:07.467 --> 00:27:10.661
You know, know, it's him.

00:27:10.681 --> 00:27:18.403
He's, he's the one messaging what he believes as a child and, uh, me and you've talked a little bit and you kind of showed me one of the times that we had got together.

00:27:18.403 --> 00:27:22.861
Um, chris had picked up his phone, he said just watch this, chop man.

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And he typed in it was literally just just a name, and I'm not even sure that if you'd put the picture on it when me and you were looking at this yeah, I didn't even have the picture uploaded on it yet you had put a name and a birth date and age in there and it was like a freaking swarm of bees, like instantly man they were attacking.

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I mean, it was insane the amount of time.

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What you're talking about is grown men, not young teens going after these teens.

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These are grown men from 25 and up.

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Trying to manipulate them, poor girls.

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What are some of the websites, man, that people should be aware of if they see these websites on their children's phones?

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Anything?

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that has a chat feature.

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A chat feature.

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Roblox, minecraft.

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I mean, there's grown men and they're attacking our kids and they're telling our kids this sweet little nothing.

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And you know, our kids are smart but they're very gullible.

00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.784
As are most children, as we all were when we were children.

00:28:28.784 --> 00:28:35.171
Yeah, curious, so Minecraft, anything with a chat deal that you can talk on, as are most children, as we all were when we were children.

00:28:35.171 --> 00:28:39.236
Curious, so Minecraft, anything with a chat deal that you can talk on.

00:28:39.236 --> 00:28:40.237
These guys are swarming it like that.

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Yeah, guys and gals, I'm not trying to be, you know whatever I mean, obviously, so most of what you deal with is men trying to entice young men.

00:28:46.439 --> 00:28:47.196
I mean there's women out there.

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I mean, just like you see that teacher that you're doing the story on.

00:28:51.692 --> 00:28:55.748
I mean the women's out there, but they're just a little more sneakier than the men.

00:28:57.751 --> 00:28:58.373
That is just crazy.

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Sometimes you'll get couples plus a couple out of Elwood, but he ended up taking the rap saying it was him the whole time, which I know it wasn't because I allowed my decoy to actually talk to her on the phone.

00:29:09.144 --> 00:29:12.449
I got to say, man, the thing you got going on is pretty cool.

00:29:12.449 --> 00:29:14.230
It gets me fired up just to watch it.

00:29:14.230 --> 00:29:17.976
And the adrenaline rush, man, when you're going out there.

00:29:17.976 --> 00:29:23.592
I mean I've seen videos where it kind of looked like you were by yourself and maybe you've only had one other dude.

00:29:23.592 --> 00:29:27.423
I mean it takes balls, man, to go out there and meet these people.

00:29:27.423 --> 00:29:29.685
Man, how do you feel?

00:29:29.685 --> 00:29:35.030
I was actually watching one of your videos today and I heard a big sigh man right before the dude walked up to you.

00:29:35.030 --> 00:29:36.792
Like here we go, man.

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I mean you don't know what's going to happen.

00:29:38.153 --> 00:29:39.115
These people probably aren't.

00:29:39.175 --> 00:29:40.317
I mean you don't.

00:29:40.317 --> 00:29:45.462
I mean I've had a guy pull knives out on me.

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Back then this was a few years ago he had pulled a knife out on me and I posted his video on Facebook, where we normally post, and then at that time I had YouTube and I had somebody comment and say oh so, so-and-so's a convicted child predator now and a convicted murderer.

00:30:05.496 --> 00:30:05.615
Wow.

00:30:05.819 --> 00:30:09.669
And I had no idea that he was ever arrested for murder because it was in Florida.

00:30:09.669 --> 00:30:24.170
Wow, he did 20 years in prison for murder and he would have got the death penalty, but the family didn't want to go through the penalty phase so they allowed him to do plea down to second-degree murder.

00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.749
What's the feedback you get from law enforcement?

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Do you get good feedback from them, like hey man, we appreciate what you're doing, or are they like A lot of times, yes, but it's the prosecutors.

00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.809
Some of the prosecutors won't take cases, so then you know that ties law enforcement's hands.

00:30:44.020 --> 00:30:47.246
So you'll come to them with all the evidence You're having the prosecutors.

00:30:47.246 --> 00:30:48.923
What's their biggest thing?

00:30:48.923 --> 00:30:51.692
That they say that they won't continue the charges.

00:30:51.692 --> 00:31:01.933
For I mean they accuse us of being vigilantes, even though you're 100 non-violent, as as I've seen and you've, you know, made clear to me.

00:31:01.933 --> 00:31:04.905
Um, you stay a certain amount of distance from them.

00:31:04.905 --> 00:31:06.068
You respect them.

00:31:06.068 --> 00:31:14.240
You just ask them questions, I mean trying to figure out what's going on, and they, these prosecutors, are still turning away the obvious charges you have against them.

00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.911
Because I mean, what they're doing, contacting these, these decoys?

00:31:17.911 --> 00:31:23.969
I mean, if it was a real 14 year old girl, what kind of charges would they be looking at for something like that?

00:31:23.969 --> 00:31:30.711
I mean, it's definitely go ahead, it depends what all was in the conversation.

00:31:32.421 --> 00:31:40.013
If you send a nude picture of yourself to a child, the charge would be disincentivization, harmful to a minor.

00:31:40.013 --> 00:31:48.615
If you get sexual and you want to have sex with a child, then they can get you for child solicitation.

00:31:48.615 --> 00:31:54.185
So I got a couple ladies that allow me to use their pictures that live in other states so we keep them safe.

00:31:54.185 --> 00:31:56.448
I can't talk like I'm a 12-year-old.

00:31:56.448 --> 00:31:58.406
I can talk like I'm a 15-year-old.

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So I try to stick around 14, 15 years old, just because that's what I feel comfortable in talking, as I just don't think that I can get them to fall for me being 12.

00:32:11.813 --> 00:32:17.476
There's other teams out here that can, and they do a great job at it.

00:32:17.859 --> 00:32:21.671
There's been times here in the past since we've made contact with each other.

00:32:21.671 --> 00:32:25.131
Instead of watching TV, man, I'll get on there and watch your videos.

00:32:25.131 --> 00:32:29.313
I mean it's sad, but it's entertaining.

00:32:29.313 --> 00:32:31.587
It draws you to watch this shit.

00:32:31.587 --> 00:32:37.032
It's really it's it's it's really enjoying to see you give it to him like you give it to him.

00:32:37.032 --> 00:32:44.791
I mean, dude, you're, you're out there doing a good job and these law enforcement and prosecutors that aren't giving you the props that you deserve.

00:32:44.791 --> 00:32:48.568
I'm going to tell you from my heart I appreciate what you're out here doing.

00:32:48.568 --> 00:32:50.292
You're putting your life on the line, man.

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I want you to take a second and tell people exactly what your Facebook thing is and where they can go, check out some of your videos and if they want to help you out in your investigation in any way they can shape or form.

00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:13.839
So I mean the best way to help us is share the video, and you can find those on Exposing Predators of Innocent Children On Facebook.

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.569
And it stands for EPIC on Facebook.

00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:19.546
You're all over the state of Indiana.

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I've seen that we do.

00:33:20.729 --> 00:33:24.309
Yeah, we do Indiana some Michigan, some Illinois.

00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:26.365
I've been to Kentucky, Ohio.

00:33:26.365 --> 00:33:27.990
I've been to Tennessee.

00:33:27.990 --> 00:33:32.309
The laws are a little bit different in Ohio and Tennessee.

00:33:32.309 --> 00:33:42.134
The law states for Ohio and Tennessee that it actually has to be a minor that they're talking to, or law enforcement, which we're.

00:33:42.134 --> 00:33:51.074
Neither Indiana, Michigan and Illinois states that they knowingly believe it's a minor.

00:33:51.074 --> 00:33:53.888
So me telling you that I'm 15 is good enough.

00:33:53.888 --> 00:33:57.430
If I tell you I'm 15, you better tell me to kick rocks.

00:33:58.339 --> 00:34:01.708
Absolutely as it should be, and the other states that you mentioned that are not like that.

00:34:01.708 --> 00:34:09.626
That's just giving these assholes a loophole and that's making them not be scared of people like you that are out here catching these assholes.

00:34:09.626 --> 00:34:10.621
Yeah.

00:34:10.702 --> 00:34:13.590
I had a guy come from Ohio.

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He came from Cincinnati.

00:34:16.527 --> 00:34:28.590
He drove about two and a half hours to New Albany, indiana, to pick up a girl in the middle of the night and New Albany didn't even talk to him.

00:34:28.590 --> 00:34:32.630
The smaller the county, the more that they're going to take these cases.

00:34:32.630 --> 00:34:35.668
Like Indianapolis, they won't even touch them.

00:34:35.668 --> 00:34:41.048
I don't even call law enforcement anymore in Indianapolis because they just won't do anything.

00:34:41.048 --> 00:34:42.132
Because I'm a prosecutor.

00:34:42.900 --> 00:34:48.201
And here again, even though Marion County, you don't call them, you're still out there exposing these people, yeah.

00:34:48.561 --> 00:34:48.981
Marion County?

00:34:48.981 --> 00:34:49.603
You don't call them.

00:34:49.603 --> 00:34:51.045
You're still out there exposing these people.

00:34:51.045 --> 00:34:55.572
Yeah, I had so, me and the girl that I used her pictures, and my son.

00:34:55.572 --> 00:34:57.655
My son was doing this with me until he got a job.

00:34:57.655 --> 00:35:18.911
We were confidential informants for a local police department in Marion County and we got two arrests the first week and if you go to my case you won't find them two guys on my case at all the prosecutor when they were in jail, the prosecutor went in there and dropped all charges and released them.

00:35:20.460 --> 00:35:22.648
What was the reasoning for the charges being dropped?

00:35:24.523 --> 00:35:28.822
They said that they didn't like to vigil any, but I was working with law enforcement.

00:35:28.822 --> 00:35:30.844
They didn't like to vigilante, but I was working with law enforcement.

00:35:30.844 --> 00:35:37.233
Instead of us going out here and playing basketball with our kids or riding bikes or you know doing whatever, we give them a phone and we get them out of our way.

00:35:37.233 --> 00:35:39.155
I'm guilty of it.

00:35:39.155 --> 00:35:49.260
I've done it with my son, you know, my nieces and nephews and I feel bad for that, you know.

00:35:49.260 --> 00:35:55.052
I mean I did toy drives where we went and bought bicycles and give them out to kids because we wanted to get kids off the electronics and get them outside.

00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:57.000
Amen.

00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:05.990
You know, I rode up in a pizza hut what was it last year, and a little dude was in there having a birthday party.

00:36:05.990 --> 00:36:08.873
Man, I had one of them hoverboard scooters, brand new in my trunk.

00:36:08.873 --> 00:36:11.376
I went over and pulled his mom and dad to the side.

00:36:11.376 --> 00:36:14.974
I'm like, hey, can I give him a present?

00:36:14.974 --> 00:36:19.782
I didn't know this family, but you know, I wanted to get that kid outside doing stuff.

00:36:19.782 --> 00:36:27.728
I think this summer I want to do something where we collect, you know, basketballs and footballs, and we're just going to drive through random neighborhoods and just throw them out to the kids.

00:36:27.967 --> 00:36:36.954
What is the best piece of advice you can give adults and parents to keep their kids safe in today's world of technology?

00:36:37.153 --> 00:36:40.315
Check your kids' device and know what they're doing 24-7.

00:36:41.416 --> 00:36:43.277
Amen, I completely agree.

00:36:49.545 --> 00:36:53.675
Because these monsters are not walking through our front doors anymore.

00:36:53.675 --> 00:36:56.019
They're coming right through the air, through the signal.

00:36:56.019 --> 00:36:58.382
You know your Wi-Fi signal, your cell phone signal.

00:36:58.382 --> 00:36:59.302
You know it ain't like before, when it was.

00:36:59.302 --> 00:37:02.365
Oh, you know, your uncle was just a little pervert, he was drinking.

00:37:02.365 --> 00:37:07.150
You know, whatever it's now we're handing these monsters to our kids.

00:37:07.150 --> 00:37:14.197
You know kids think it could be other kids that they're talking to too, and you know that's why I say you got to know what your kid's doing.

00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:25.242
Do you find that?

00:37:25.242 --> 00:37:29.036
You find mostly that that these predators are acting like other kids, or maybe just at first, or are they are they just basically saying, are they about their age?

00:37:29.036 --> 00:37:30.260
Are they acting like other kids?

00:37:30.260 --> 00:37:31.465
What do you mostly see there?

00:37:31.465 --> 00:37:33.548
No, I mostly see them.

00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:35.867
They're portraying as adults, as their selves.

00:37:35.867 --> 00:37:40.590
That's like the guy that I just got in Columbus Ohio.

00:37:40.590 --> 00:37:48.670
I found him in a teen chat room but he was portraying to be his self talking about do you like older men?

00:37:48.670 --> 00:37:52.532
He didn't care, care, come to find out.

00:37:52.532 --> 00:38:08.014
This is at least the third time he's been called unbelievable so then, his brother and sister was ready to whoop up on him oh was, I think I watched that video.

00:38:08.114 --> 00:38:10.159
Actually, was that the one in the Walmart parking lot?

00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:12.485
Yeah, oh man, that was awesome.

00:38:12.485 --> 00:38:15.927
Yeah, that was awesome.

00:38:16.822 --> 00:38:28.219
I felt so bad for his brother because they just lost their dad that morning and he was still going to have this girl drive all the way to Ohio to meet him, Even though his father had just died that morning.

00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.980
He was so drawn to this sick crime.

00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:39.353
It's got to be like an addiction to some of these dudes he's like oh, you know I made a mistake.

00:38:39.393 --> 00:38:44.335
No, it wasn't a mistake, it was a choice, you made a choice, you know.

00:38:44.335 --> 00:38:45.639
You got on that damn website.

00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.811
You could have told her no, you're too young, too young, go get somebody your own age.

00:38:49.811 --> 00:38:52.326
But instead it was.

00:38:52.326 --> 00:38:55.503
You know he wants to jerk off every night to her.

00:38:55.503 --> 00:39:00.548
While he was at work at a, he was a little concierge.

00:39:00.548 --> 00:39:04.688
He was doing concierge service for a condominium company.

00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:11.188
Oh, this was Super Chomo jacket, yeah, where parents would be walking through with their kids.

00:39:11.188 --> 00:39:12.711
Wow Did you.

00:39:12.711 --> 00:39:13.976
Oh, this was Super Chomo jacket.

00:39:14.016 --> 00:39:19.746
Wow Did I hear you say that he was already busted three times.

00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:28.824
Oh, that's what he was talking about.

00:39:28.864 --> 00:39:31.092
Then we found out that he was moving.

00:39:31.092 --> 00:39:44.768
His family shipped him off to Wisconsin and one of his family members told me that it happened when he was in Wisconsin before he was talking to somebody online and got caught.

00:39:44.768 --> 00:39:47.585
So they're straight three.

00:39:50.021 --> 00:39:51.967
Well, buddy, we appreciate you being on the show.

00:39:51.967 --> 00:39:54.389
Man, we're going to have to wrap this episode up.

00:39:54.389 --> 00:39:55.945
Keep in touch with you, man.

00:39:55.945 --> 00:39:57.885
Like I said, I'd like to go on one of them rides with you.

00:39:57.885 --> 00:39:58.829
I'd really appreciate it.

00:39:58.829 --> 00:40:01.369
Everybody I want you to go to.

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Go follow Exposing Predators of Innocent Children and give our friend Chris a follow and tell him 69 South sent you.

00:40:13.302 --> 00:40:15.610
That wraps up the interview for Chris from Epic.

00:40:16.260 --> 00:40:17.385
That was so cool.

00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:18.846
Yeah, he's a pretty cool dude.

00:40:18.846 --> 00:40:23.010
We did get a chance to meet him and we appreciate what he does here.

00:40:24.980 --> 00:40:27.059
And this probable cause affidavit wraps up the four.

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You know probable cause affidavit wraps up the four April Brown, stephanie Reeves, anthony Straw and Eric Reid and we will keep you updated on what's going on with their court cases on our Facebook page, podcast 69 South, and we also have a private Facebook group that you can join to get all the latest updates on all the cases that we're following.

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But until then, we want you and wish you to have a good day, a good evening, whatever.

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Outro Music.